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After reading so much ideology and philosophy I can't but help come to the conclusion that fascism is undeniably a left-wing ideology.

@Mr_NutterButter
Well.... It's complicated.
Try the political triangle. It explains politics a lot to me. One of the main point is, whatever is the 1 value that is most important to you, you see the other two looks the same to you.

I’ve been calling politics a trichotomy for years now. I’m glad some random meme-maker has caught up to my ideas :anintellectual:

@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter
TFM had been spreading the good word of political trichotomy for at least 5 years now.

Um sweaty I hadn’t heard him do it so I’m therefore the originator of this idea @Tfmonkey i’ll sue u

@LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter men will make the politics triangle rather than going to therapy

@errante @Mr_NutterButter
Don't let me started again on why therapy is a death sentence to a man's sanity.

@LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter jokes aside this isnt a very good taxonomy for politics (no such thing exists)
@LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter even if you add a fuckton of axes it still remains inaccurate and unable to capture the nuances of positions (see 8values for an example of why adding more dimensions doesn't work)

just talk to people about what they believe rather than try and stick them on some retarded chart lol

@errante @Mr_NutterButter
except lack of clear categorization doesn't mean, that categories are pointless, or that they don't help.

There are infinite number of possible spoons, as well as forks. There is no "one fork", and you can even go in the middle and create spork.

But that doesn't matter, since the term "fork" is still extremely important to you for some reasons.

@LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter > that categories are pointless, or that they don't help.

if they obscure reality, then they are no help whatsoever - a detriment. political labels do exactly that. have you had the delight of speaking to people who proclaim that anarchism is 'pro government'?

you can tell them they're wrong, sure, but they will continue to call themselves as such, and the label ceases to have meaning

> There is no "one fork"

plato would disagree~
@LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter the existence of retards makes those political labels far less useful. hence, just talk to people

@errante @Mr_NutterButter
> Just talk to people
Definitely. It will help you, because you will find their values.

But do you agree, that once you know their values, you could most likely categorize them in 1 of 4 categories? (freedom lovers, community lovers, equality lovers and true anomalies)

@LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter categorising them as such is so broad that it becomes barely useful :)

one of my friends called me a communist (as per your axis!), but i have found no points of relation with any communist ive met

I see where are you comming from but I wouldn’t. It needs more reductio ad radix. Those are not their values in first place just labels they hide behind. There are only 2 categories. Truth lovers and lie lovers AKA National Socialists and brainwashed Communists. (Liberals are just rebranded Commies). Commies are not owners of their brain. These people are not free to think for themselves. One painter wrote about it in his book Mein Kampf. Nothing really changed, people got even more stupid.

@notsee @Mr_NutterButter @errante
Looks on triangle
Place pin on Absolutism
checks the other 2 sides.
Considers both of them to be the same... Thanks for a demonstration of the principle I mentioned above.

@errante @Mr_NutterButter @notsee
I know... I still barely see a difference between absolutism and communism, but the triangle and discourse thought me, that it is there......somewhere. :omegalul:

@LukeAlmighty @errante @Mr_NutterButter @notsee I would suggest that they are indeed nearly the same. They both advocate for revolution or terrorism or a military coup to install a new government that has its favored people. The favored people may be different on either side, and one may rightly claim that those long subjugated tend towards communism; while those who have long been subjugators tend toward absolutism… But in the end, I refuse to believe that the death of countless people is ever an acceptable means of establishing a government. A gov

NS was not absolutism and the triangle is idiotic. False equivalencies. Marxist definition is wrong too. Individualism too. The 2 are inherently jewish… NS is also not Csarism nor Monarchy. Thanks for demonstrating that you need to read Mein Kampf priteli. Radix taky. 😉

The triangle tries to make false dychotomy fallacy into (ill)logical razor. It also cripples mind to think in someone’s made up geometry. It creates false authority in blind consumer of triangle and this authority can’t be questioned. Thus disinformed consumer will only lead to false and wrong assesments. Yet the triangle says absolutely nothing. What does it mean? It’s for those who don’t understand what (((2 sides of the same coin))) mean in politics.

Zadna levice ani pravice neni, obe ovladaji zide a co hlasaji nema nic spolecneho s tim co aplikuji. Jak si jinak obhajis, ze ex-komuniste jako Fiala a Schwab jsou dnes lidrama kapitalismu? Jak si obhajis, ze demokrate u nas v Evrope jsou pravice zatim co demokrate v USA jsou levice? Jak si obhajis, ze (na oko) uhlavni nepratele Marxismus a Kapitalismus bojovali ruka v ruce spolu v 2 svetove? No absurdismy neobhajis, protoze si to rozporuje a vyvraci se samo. Jedine, ze ses blazen, co si nemyslim. Ten kto :triangle: udelal si vycucal definice opet z zidovskeho mainstreamu na zaklade zidovskeho deleni. Ano tyhle 3 strany existuji a pouzivaji se s tema povrschnima definicema za primarni nastroj na divide et impera. NS, posleze ani Fasismus, neni ani jednim z nich na jejich porozumeni je MK a Fasistickej manifest. Pokud potrebujes politickej trojuhelnik tady je.

Then you are useful idiot :googlesheep: lolbertarian Marxist goy cattle who ate the propaganda.

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