@dcjogger Thats so sad for people who like police states. But they will be treated the way they treated hillary.
Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?
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Voting cannot fix the US now. All that can save the USA is a violent revolution.
Trump may or may not be part of the establishment, but the 1% can easily make Trump dance if the elites want him to. The ruling powers control the government and the media.
Since everything is illegal, how can you drain the swamp if firing corrupt officials is against the law?
The Deep State has a black budget and can torture, drug, blackmail, and threaten a president and his family.
The shadow government can intercept the letters, emails, and phone calls of the president.
The ruling powers can forge presidential letters that threaten wars against foreign countries.
The Deep State can bribe and threaten workers to disobey presidential orders.
The elites can make up, insinuate, or use real evidence to smear people by running stories about how someone is a junkie, drunk, or homosexual.
The 1% can find real or fake victims and persuade the victims to sue the president.
The Deep State can find or download child porn onto computers used by the president.
The Deep State could say that the president is a tax cheat.
The media could run stories claiming that the president is mentally ill.
Even if the Deep State didn't lie or find dirt on someone, the elites could run stories about a family member, employer, friend, or neighbor who was involved in a scandal.
The only people who can become president now are billionaires or people paid off by the elites because elections cost money. The wealthy would rather hire a puppet because the rich don't want to become a target.
The US is past the point return.
Americans should go Galt, dropout, become mobile, and go underground today. Anyone who has a house or a car becomes a target because of property taxes.
Americans should be fanatic about promoting freedom and be obsessed with resisting.
Protest.
Make songs and art about tyranny.
Disobey nanny state laws. Make laws unenforceable.
The elites can't kill us all. There aren't enough prisons.
The US is no longer a democracy. Politicians, government officials, the Gestapo, and soldiers are puppets for the 1% and Americans should make traitors feel extremely uncomfortable.
Americans shouldn't say that they are waiting for more proof that the USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state. All the lines have been crossed.
Thinking that the elites will turn around and reduce the debt, end the wars, and restore the Bill of Rights is delusional.
The US is going to get much worse. All that is unknown is when. Will the ruling class be able to kick the debt can down the road for another 50 years?
Americans seem to have forgotten their history and have tunnel vision about the past.
Conservatives think the US never had black people before today.
Liberals think the US always had food stamps.
Americans insist everybody worked for free when there was no minimum wage.
Americans think the USA always had TSA groping.
Americans say everyone died when there were no seatbelt laws.
Americans believe North Korea is successful because they have closed borders.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/almost-two-thirds-of-americans-support-tariffs-on-china-poll
Americans think either that the USA is the country with the most freedom in the world or think that the US was always a police state.
Anyone under the age 50 will almost certainly see the US collapse in their lifetimes. You can't even be sure now if the US will last another year.
One could understand why those who are 70 might want to keep their head down, but any American who is 20 or 30 or 40 and is not resisting or making plans to leave the US is insane. Everything is illegal. You have nothing left to lose.
Terrorists, dissidents, and seasteaders are all targets. There is no escape. You might buy some time by moving to another country, though.
Some say protesting doesn't work, but Americans protested the Vietnam War and the war ended. Americans are too cowardly and depraved now to protest US wars in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Niger, Yemen, and Somalia and the wars continue.
How can Americans justify paying taxes for US wars, debt, and tyranny? Does your conscience bother you at all?
The cowards who bitch about the US collapse online now are no better than the disgusting American sheep who only care about drugs, alcohol, bread and circuses, sex, music, movies, sports, and celebrities.
The US government is not legitimate today. You wouldn't feel guilty if you didn't pay the Crips or the Mafia protection money, so why should you feel bad about not paying taxes?
The US is a police state and you want to buy a fishing license? WTF?
You know that the US is completely doomed when the USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state, but Americans only care about slavery reparations, free college, and homosexuality.
Voting doesn't work because candidates won't stand up for freedom, the voters don't demand freedom, and the election machines can be hacked.
In a a free country, there are lines that you do not cross. Free countries do not have checkpoints, nanny state laws, TSA groping, censorship, protesting bans, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, indefinite detention without trial, extrajudicial assassination, forfeiture, and torture. The USA has crossed all of them.
Do you think the debt will decline, the wars will end, and the Bill of Rights will be restored on their own?
The US stock market will implode, guns will be banned, there will be starvation, there will be dead bodies in the street, Americans will start sabotaging government equipment, government workers will begin to worry if they will come come home at night, Americans will become kamikaze pilots and suicide bombers, there will be death camps, there will be a Civil War, and WWIII will break out.
The government can't help you. The government is destroying you.
The real heroes today are those resisting tyranny like Assange, Snowden, and Manning.
Americans need to wake up and start becoming fanatic about freedom immediately.
Freedom no longer means what it once did.
Not only do we no longer have dominion over our bodies, our families, our property, and our lives, but the government continues to chip away at what few rights we still have to speak freely and think for ourselves.
If the government can control speech, it can control thought and, in turn, it can control the minds of the citizenry.
Protest laws, contempt-of-cop charges, and all of the other bogus violations used by cops and prosecutors to muzzle discontent and discourage anyone from challenging government authority are intended to send a strong message that in the American police state, youâre either part of the herd, marching in lockstep with the governmentâs dictates, or youâre a pariah, a suspect, a criminal, a troublemaker, a terrorist, a radical, a revolutionary.
Yet by muzzling the citizenry, by removing the constitutional steam-valves that allow people to speak their minds, air their grievances, and contribute to a larger dialogue that hopefully results in a more just world, the government is creating a climate in which violence becomes inevitable.
When there is no steam valve â when there is no one to hear what the people have to say, because government representatives have removed themselves so far from their constituents â then frustration builds, anger grows, and people become more volatile and desperate to force a conversation.
As John F Kennedy warned in March 1962, âThose who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.â
We are fast approaching a moment of reckoning where we will be forced to choose between the vision of what America was intended to be (a model for self-governance where power is vested in the people) and the reality of what she has become (a police state where power is vested in the government).
This slide into totalitarianism â helped along by overcriminalization, government surveillance, militarized police, neighbors turning in neighbors, privatized prisons, and forced labor camps, to name just a few similarities â is tracking very closely with what happened in Germany in the years leading up to Hitlerâs rise to power.
We are walking a dangerous path right now.
The horrors of the Nazi concentration camps werenât kept secret from the German people. They were well-publicized. As The Guardian reports:
"The mass of ordinary Germans did know about the evolving terror of Hitler's Holocaust... They knew concentration camps were full of Jewish people who were stigmatised as sub-human and race-defilers. They knew that these, like other groups and minorities, were being killed out of hand. They knew that Adolf Hitler had repeatedly forecast the extermination of every Jew on German soil. They knew these details because they had read about them. They knew because the camps and the measures which led up to them had been prominently and proudly reported step by step in thousands of officially-inspired German media articles and posters⦠The reports, in newspapers and magazines all over the country were phases in a public process of "desensitisation" which worked all too well, culminating in the killing of 6m Jewsâ¦."
Likewise, the mass of ordinary Americans are fully aware of the Trump Administrationâs efforts to stigmatize and dehumanize any and all who do not fit with the governmentâs plans for this country.
These mass arrests of anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant may well be the shot across the bow.
You see, itâs a short hop, skip, and a jump from allowing government agents to lock large swaths of the population up in detention centers unless or until they can prove that they are not only legally in the country to empowering government agents to subject anyone â citizen and noncitizen alike â to similar treatment unless or until they can prove that they are in compliance with every statute and regulation on the books, and not guilty of having committed some crime or other.
Itâs no longer a matter of if, but when.
You may be innocent of wrongdoing now, but when the standard for innocence is set by the government, no one is safe. Everyone is a suspect, and anyone can be a criminal when itâs the government determining what is a crime.
Remember, the police state does not discriminate.
At some point, once the government has been given the power to do whatever it wants â the Constitution be damned â it will not matter whether youâre an illegal immigrant or a citizen by birth, a law-breaker or someone who marches in lockstep with the governmentâs dictates. Government jails will detain you just as easily whether youâve obeyed every law or broken a dozen. And government agents will treat you like a suspect, whether or not youâve done anything wrong, simply because they have been trained to view and treat everyone like potential criminals.
Eventually, all that will matter is whether some government agent â poorly-trained, utterly ignorant of the Constitution, way too hyped-up on the power of their badges, and authorized to detain, search, interrogate, threaten, and generally harass anyone they see fit â chooses to single you out for special treatment.
Weâve been having this same debate about the perils of government overreach for the past 50-plus years, and still we donât seem to learn, or if we learn, we learn too late.
All of the excessive, abusive tactics employed by the government today â warrantless surveillance, stop and frisk searches, SWAT team raids, roadside strip searches, asset forfeiture schemes, private prisons, indefinite detention, militarized police, etc. â started out as a seemingly well-meaning plan to address some problem in society that needed a little extra help.
Be careful what you wish for: you will get more than you bargained for, especially when the governmentâs involved.
Remember, nothing is ever as simple as the government claims it is.
The war on drugs turned out to be a war on the American people, waged with SWAT teams and militarized police.
The war on terror turned out to be a war on the American people, waged with warrantless surveillance and indefinite detention.
The war on immigration is turning out to be yet another war on the American people, waged with roving government agents demanding âpapers, please.â
Whatever dangerous practices you allow the government to carry out now â whether itâs in the name of national security or protecting Americaâs borders or making America great again â rest assured, these same practices can and will be used against you when the government decides to set its sights on you.
Has the government become any more humane, any more respectful of the rights of the citizenry?
Has it become any more transparent or willing to abide by the rule of law? Has it become any more truthful about its activities? Has it become any more cognizant of its appointed role as a guardian of our rights?
Or has the government simply hunkered down and hidden its nefarious acts and dastardly experiments under layers of secrecy, legalism and obfuscations? Has it not become wilier, more slippery, more difficult to pin down?
Having mastered the Orwellian art of Doublespeak and followed the Huxleyan blueprint for distraction and diversion, are we not dealing with a government that is simply craftier and more conniving that it used to be?
Consider this: after revelations about the governmentâs experiments spanning the 20th century spawned outrage, the government began looking for human guinea pigs in other countries, where âclinical trials could be done more cheaply and with fewer rules.â
In Guatemala, prisoners and patients at a mental hospital were infected with syphilis, âapparently to test whether penicillin could prevent some sexually transmitted disease.â In Uganda, U.S.-funded doctors âfailed to give the AIDS drug AZT to all the HIV-infected pregnant women in a study⦠even though it would have protected their newborns.â Meanwhile, in Nigeria, children with meningitis were used to test an antibiotic named Trovan. Eleven children died and many others were left disabled.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Case in point: back in 2016, it was announced that scientists working for the Department of Homeland Security would begin releasing various gases and particles on crowded subway platforms as part of an experiment aimed at testing bioterror airflow in New York subways.
The government insisted that the gases released into the subways by the DHS were nontoxic and did not pose a health risk. Itâs in our best interests, they said, to understand how quickly a chemical or biological terrorist attack might spread. And look how cool the technology isâsaid the government cheerleadersâthat scientists can use something called DNATrax to track the movement of microscopic substances in air and food. (Imagine the kinds of surveillance that could be carried out by the government using trackable airborne microscopic substances you breathe in or ingest.)
Mind you, this is the same government that in 1949 sprayed bacteria into the Pentagonâs air handling system, then the worldâs largest office building. In 1950, special ops forces sprayed bacteria from Navy ships off the coast of Norfolk and San Francisco, in the latter case exposing all of the cityâs 800,000 residents.
In 1953, government operatives staged âmockâ anthrax attacks on St. Louis, Minneapolis, and Winnipegusing generators placed on top of cars. Local governments were reportedly told that ââinvisible smokescreen[s]â were being deployed to mask the city on enemy radar.â Later experiments covered territory as wide-ranging as Ohio to Texas and Michigan to Kansas.
In 1965, the governmentâs experiments in bioterror took aim at Washingtonâs National Airport, followed by a 1966 experiment in which army scientists exposed a million subway NYC passengers to airborne bacteria that causes food poisoning.
And this is the same government that has taken every bit of technology sold to us as being in our best interestsâGPS devices, surveillance, nonlethal weapons, etc.âand used it against us, to track, control and trap us.
So, no, I donât think the governmentâs ethics have changed much over the years. Itâs just taken its nefarious programs undercover.
The question remains: why is the government doing this? The answer is always the same: money, power and total domination.
Itâs the same answer no matter which totalitarian regime is in power.
The mindset driving these programs has, appropriately, been likened to that of Nazi doctors experimenting on Jews. As the Holocaust Museum recounts, Nazi physicians âconducted painful and often deadly experiments on thousands of concentration camp prisoners without their consent.â
The Naziâs unethical experiments ran the gamut from freezing experiments using prisoners to find an effective treatment for hypothermia, tests to determine the maximum altitude for parachuting out of a plane, injecting prisoners with malaria, typhus, tuberculosis, typhoid fever, yellow fever, and infectious hepatitis, exposing prisoners to phosgene and mustard gas, and mass sterilization experiments.
The horrors being meted out against the American people can be traced back, in a direct line, to the horrors meted out in Nazi laboratories. In fact, following the second World War, the U.S. government recruited many of Hitlerâs employees, adopted his protocols, embraced his mindset about law and order and experimentation, and implemented his tactics in incremental steps.
Sounds far-fetched, you say? Read on. Itâs all documented.
As historian Robert Gellately recounts, the Nazi police state was initially so admired for its efficiency and order by the world powers of the day that Herbert Hoover, then-head of the FBI, actually sent one of his right-hand men, Edmund Patrick Coffey, to Berlin in January 1938 at the invitation of Germanyâs secret police, the Gestapo.
The FBI was so impressed with the Nazi regime that, according to the New York Times, in the decades after World War II, the FBI, along with other government agencies, aggressively recruited at least a thousand Nazis, including some of Hitlerâs highest henchmen.
All told, thousands of Nazi collaboratorsâincluding the head of a Nazi concentration camp, among othersâwere given secret visas and brought to America by way of Project Paperclip. Subsequently, they were hired on as spies, informants and scientific advisers, and then camouflaged to ensure that their true identities and ties to Hitlerâs holocaust machine would remain unknown. All the while, thousands of Jewish refugees were refused entry visas to the U.S. on the grounds that it could threaten national security.
Adding further insult to injury, American taxpayers have been paying to keep these ex-Nazis on the U.S. governmentâs payroll ever since. And in true Gestapo fashion, anyone who has dared to blow the whistle on the FBIâs illicit Nazi ties has found himself spied upon, intimidated, harassed and labeled a threat to national security.
As if the governmentâs covert, taxpayer-funded employment of Nazis after World War II wasnât bad enough, U.S. government agenciesâthe FBI, CIA and the militaryâhave since fully embraced many of the Naziâs well-honed policing tactics, and have used them repeatedly against American citizens.
Itâs certainly easy to denounce the full-frontal horrors carried out by the scientific and medical community within a despotic regime such as Nazi Germany, but what do you do when itâs your own government that claims to be a champion of human rights all the while allowing its agents to engage in the foulest, bases and most despicable acts of torture, abuse and experimentation?
When all is said and done, this is not a government that has our best interests at heart.
This is not a government that values us.
Perhaps the answer lies in The Third Man, Carol Reedâs influential 1949 film starring Joseph Cotten and Orson Welles. In the film, set in a post-WW II Vienna, rogue war profiteer Harry Lime has come to view human carnage with a callous indifference, unconcerned that the diluted penicillin heâs been trafficking underground has resulted in the tortured deaths of young children.
Challenged by his old friend Holly Martins to consider the consequences of his actions, Lime responds, âIn these days, old man, nobody thinks in terms of human beings. Governments donât, so why should we?â
âHave you ever seen any of your victims?â asks Martins.
âVictims?â responds Limes, as he looks down from the top of a Ferris wheel onto a populace reduced to mere dots on the ground. âLook down there. Tell me. Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots stopped moving forever? If I offered you twenty thousand pounds for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, or would you calculate how many dots you could afford to spare? Free of income tax, old man. Free of income tax â the only way you can save money nowadays.â
Americans want to live in a police state to be safe, but now Americans must fear the Gestapo.
Do you really feel safer now that the government can steal your property, censor you, torture you, indefinitely detain you without trial, grope you, wiretap you, and extrajudicially assassinate you?
Are yoga pants really that dangerous that they need to be illegal?
Are you really afraid of kids who start lemonade stands or bank customers who deposit less than $10,000 into their own bank accounts?
Is there any other possible way of dealing with smokers besides putting them in jail?
Should Americans be forced to wear Mao suits?
Didn't the US have a Bill of Rights before?
When did Americans become such pussies?