Americans want to live in a police state to be safe, but now Americans must fear the Gestapo.
Do you really feel safer now that the government can steal your property, censor you, torture you, indefinitely detain you without trial, grope you, wiretap you, and extrajudicially assassinate you?
Are yoga pants really that dangerous that they need to be illegal?
Are you really afraid of kids who start lemonade stands or bank customers who deposit less than $10,000 into their own bank accounts?
Is there any other possible way of dealing with smokers besides putting them in jail?
Should Americans be forced to wear Mao suits?
Didn't the US have a Bill of Rights before?
When did Americans become such pussies?
Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?
Libertarian
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@dcjogger I don't necessarily agree, but food for thought nonetheless.
The US collapse has become so obvious now that you might wonder if the decline is by design and not by coincidence.
Most everyone knows about the decay, but they may not be sure why or what to do. Americans may not understand the urgency to prepare. The US could fail in the next 5 years, 10 years, or 30 years.
Maybe Americans can get people talking by holding a meeting or a forum in a restaurant, meeting room, college, library, university, church, or nonprofit. Put an ad on the radio, or in the newspaper, or pass out flyers.
Use the meeting to give an overview of why the USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state today.
Mention the results of a collapse and solutions to the collapse. Talk about setting up a commune, protesting, jury nullification, going Galt, militias, prepping, secession, and emigration.
Talk about how Communist countries kill the economy and then set up special economic zones. Ask why entire nations cannot be an economic zone.
You can discuss the advantages of secession by saying that there could be a new Bill of Rights, trade wars could end, a new country could print their own currency, there would be peace, no regulations, no nanny state laws, no minimum wages, no concentration camps, no free speech bans, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, no security cameras, no license plate readers, no checkpoints, no redlight cameras, no speed cameras, no FBI facial and voice recognition, no curfews, no gun bans, no NSA wiretapping, no searches without warrants, no private prisons, no mandatory minimums, no 3 strikes laws, no DNA databases, no CISPA, no SOPA, no IMBRA, no private prison quotas, no no knock raids, no take down notices, no no fly lists, no terror watch lists, no Constitution free zones, no stop and frisk, no 3 strikes laws, no kill switches, no National Security Letters, no DNA databases, no kill lists, no FBAR, no FATCA, no Operation Chokepoint, no TSA groping, no civil forfeiture, no CIA torture, no NDAA indefinite detention, no secret FISA courts, no FEMA camps, no laws requiring passports for domestic travel, no IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, no gun and ammo stockpiles, no laws outlawing protesting, no police militarization, and no Jade Helm.
Mention that secession might be rejected by Americans who want US welfare.
Ask and answer questions. Brainstorm.
Any problems created by man can be solved by man.
Fighting for liberty will not make you a billionaire, but Americans who think that they can keep their money and avoid being arrested or killed by laying low now will find out that they will lose their money and be arrested and killed in the end. You have nothing left to lose fighting for freedom.
One can understand why the elites want to kill off the 99%, but to see Americans completely surrender is insane. The whole country seems to be committing suicide.
Should Americans dance on the Titanic?
What would you do if you lived in Rome in 480 AD and there were no tax collectors, but there was no one to protect you from barbarians?
What would you do after the USSR collapsed and wanted a passport, but there was no government?
Libertarians think that they should give up defending freedom because Americans hate liberty, but Libertarians should keep resisting tyranny for selfish reasons.
While the elites control the money, government, and media, the 99% have the numbers.
One Libertarian may not be able to resist being sent to the concentration camps, but one million people might.
Libertarian
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The US will look like North Korea.
The USA is headed for a fall.
The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state now, but Americans cannot vote for change because the US is no longer a democracy, the only candidates are Nazis or Communists, and Americans are too degraded to vote for someone who supports freedom.
Once the stock market crashes, guns will be banned, property will be nationalized, the Internet will be shut down, starting a business will be illegal, the tax rate will be 100%, and Americans will be required to work at government jobs.
The world will have a global government, but there will be still be borders. Countries will be set up as zones and prisons will be the size of cities. The elites do not want people to fly from Chile to Russia because a mobile population is hard to control.
Americans should sell their homes and cars now and be mobile. Don't carry a cellphone around. Property owners become a target because of property taxes. Consider burying your firearms or starting an anonymous shell corporation or a nonprofit church to buy property.
Practice civil disobedience. Why obey the law or pay taxes that you didn't vote for? The government and illegal aliens don't obey the law, why should Americans?
The are some Americans who still say the USA is a free and peaceful country with a balanced budget. Americans who have never been arrested or beaten by the police and get food stamps might view the government as kind.
People can tolerate a great deal of government abuse. Even the Chinese say that they live in a free country.
Americans today need to urgently start trying to wake people and promote freedom.
Americans must tell the government workers, soldiers, and the Gestapo that they are puppets for the elites.
The government agents who insist that they are doing good and justify their paychecks should be mocked.
Everyone has a breaking point.
A large-scale organized resistance is not likely because of NSA wiretapping, so patriots will need to use of word of mouth, speak in code, and operate as lone wolves.
The media will portray Nazis and Communists as normal and say anyone who loves freedom is a rightwing terrorist and nutjob.
When guns are outlawed, patriots will use trucks and airplanes as weapons against government buildings.
Patriotic soldiers might surrender weapons to the rebels.
Americans must be obsessed about spreading freedom now.
Americans who are complacent today about tyranny are naive. The elites are clearly determined about killing off the 99%.
If Americans have no rights now, why would the ruling powers stop? If plastic bags were outlawed yesterday and straws were banned today then what would stop the 1% from banning carpet tomorrow?
The founding fathers loved freedom and knew tyranny would grow, but how could the founders know that the elites would have Obamacare? Freedom is good, but unfortunately there is no constitutional right to have the freedom to own a snowblower.
The government cannot help you. Americans used to be able to trust the police and were surprised that people in the 3rd world did not, but now you see why.
The US collapse is certain. All that is unknown is when. Will the elites be able to kick the debt can down the road for another 5, 10, or 50 years?
If the US today is a police state and tomorrow will be worse, why not get this party started?
Americans want to live in bankrupt warmongering police state because Americans accept it. The US is not a bankrupt warmongering police state because of blacks, Jews, Muslims, fags, and Mexicans. YOU are the reason the USA is collapsing.
Do you think that things would change in the USA if 60 million Americans protested in Washington, DC? What would happen if everyone in Congress and governors suddenly died?
What happened to Caligula?
The US will look like North Korea.
The USA is headed for a fall.
The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state now, but Americans cannot vote for change because the US is no longer a democracy, the only candidates are Nazis or Communists, and Americans are too degraded to vote for someone who supports freedom.
Once the stock market crashes, guns will be banned, property will be nationalized, the Internet will be shut down, starting a business will be illegal, the tax rate will be 100%, and Americans will be required to work at government jobs.
The world will have a global government, but there will be still be borders. Countries will be set up as zones and prisons will be the size of cities. The elites do not want people to fly from Chile to Russia because a mobile population is hard to control.
Americans should sell their homes and cars now and be mobile. Don't carry a cellphone around. Property owners become a target because of property taxes. Consider burying your firearms or starting an anonymous shell corporation or a nonprofit church to buy property.
Practice civil disobedience. Why obey the law or pay taxes that you didn't vote for? The government and illegal aliens don't obey the law, why should Americans?
The are some Americans who still say the USA is a free and peaceful country with a balanced budget. Americans who have never been arrested or beaten by the police and get food stamps might view the government as kind.
People can tolerate a great deal of government abuse. Even the Chinese say that they live in a free country.
Americans today need to urgently start trying to wake people and promote freedom.
Americans must tell the government workers, soldiers, and the Gestapo that they are puppets for the elites.
The government agents who insist that they are doing good and justify their paychecks should be mocked.
Everyone has a breaking point.
A large-scale organized resistance is not likely because of NSA wiretapping, so patriots will need to use of word of mouth, speak in code, and operate as lone wolves.
The media will portray Nazis and Communists as normal and say anyone who loves freedom is a rightwing terrorist and nutjob.
When guns are outlawed, patriots will use trucks and airplanes as weapons against government buildings.
Patriotic soldiers might surrender weapons to the rebels.
Americans must be obsessed about spreading freedom now.
Americans who are complacent today about tyranny are naive. The elites are clearly determined about killing off the 99%.
If Americans have no rights now, why would the ruling powers stop? If plastic bags were outlawed yesterday and straws were banned today then what would stop the 1% from banning carpet tomorrow?
The founding fathers loved freedom and knew tyranny would grow, but how could the founders know that the elites would have Obamacare? Freedom is good, but unfortunately there is no constitutional right to have the freedom to own a snowblower.
The government cannot help you. Americans used to be able to trust the police and were surprised that people in the 3rd world did not, but now you see why.
The US collapse is certain. All that is unknown is when. Will the elites be able to kick the debt can down the road for another 5, 10, or 50 years?
If the US today is a police state and tomorrow will be worse, why not get this party started?
Americans want to live in bankrupt warmongering police state because Americans accept it. The US is not a bankrupt warmongering police state because of blacks, Jews, Muslims, fags, and Mexicans. YOU are the reason the USA is collapsing.
Do you think that things would change in the USA if 60 million Americans protested in Washington, DC? What would happen if everyone in Congress and governors suddenly died?
What happened to Caligula?
Libertarian
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The media, newspapers, magazines, and movies are constantly brainwashing Americans to accept Communism.
Can't patriots start websites, radio stations, newspapers, magazines, and make films praising morality, freedom, balanced budgets, and peace?
https://www.bizbuysell.com/magazines-and-newspapers-for-sale/?q=%2fwEFDmJmc19zb3J0PTYwOjIw
What's the alternative? Surrender? Are Americans just supposed to go to the concentration camps quietly?
WTF?
The media, newspapers, magazines, and movies are constantly brainwashing Americans to accept Communism.
Can't patriots start websites, radio stations, newspapers, magazines, and make films praising morality, freedom, balanced budgets, and peace?
https://www.bizbuysell.com/magazines-and-newspapers-for-sale/?q=%2fwEFDmJmc19zb3J0PTYwOjIw
What's the alternative? Surrender? Are Americans just supposed to go to the concentration camps quietly?
WTF?
Does anyone get the feeling that the Smollett, free college, and Epstein stories are just diversions from the real issues of debt, wars, and the police state?
There is so much evidence that the USA is collapsing now that you can't ignore it, but no one does a damn thing.
Something epic is coming like the French Revolution, US Revolution, the Civil War, WWII, or the Soviet collapse.
There is no serious effort to end the wars, reduce the debt, or restore the Bill of Rights. The elites are getting everything they want and the 99% don't care.
Insanity.
Maybe there is no hope, but one wonders if Americans cannot at least make an effort to think of solutions or wake people up so that they can prepare instead of just waiting for a spark that leads to collapse.
Can't anyone say anything?
Why not print up bumper stickers, pass out flyers, protest, go on hunger strikes, rent billboards, or make a website?
Couldn't there be a free market solution to the collapse? Couldn't there be mass awakening? Shouldn't freedom go viral?
Americans should look at the big picture.
Conservatives used to support the rich because Conservatives thought that they would become wealthy one day, too.
Liberals used to hate the rich.
Now the elites have embraced socialism.
The elites seem to be willing to lose money in the short-term if they can kill off the 99% in the long-term because the ruling class will then be able to steal the property of the 99%.
Concentration camps cost money, but the USSR could afford them.
The ruling powers don't mind losing money if they can gain control.
If the wealthy cared about money so much then why would Bezos buy the money-losing Washington Post?
If the rich cared so much abut money now then why would Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit be eager to kick off users?
If the 1% cared so much abut money now then why would banks refuse to allow gun owners have bank accounts?
https://www.pagunblog.com/2018/03/22/citibank-strangles-gun-owners/
If the elites cared abut money so much then why would they stop selling guns?
https://money.cnn.com/2018/02/28/news/companies/dicks-weapon-ban/index.html
Americans seem to think that the elites won't open up concentration camps or shut down the Internet because the 1% will lose money, but what if the ruling class wants you dead so that they can steal your money?
The elites obviously wants the 99% dead. The ruling powers promote wars, debt, tyranny, abortion, immorality, regulations, trade wars, welfare, suicide, offshoring, illegal immigration, and want Americans to be herded into the cities so the elites can then cut off the food supply.
Americans who are mobile, go Galt, drop-out, go underground, work for cash, and become nameless and stateless nomads risk wasting their lives if the US doesn't collapse in the next 30 years. Americans who do leave, however, might be safer when the US Ponzi
economy implodes living on a beach in a 3rd world country. An economic downturn might not be as shocking if the population is used to being poor and you can fish for food. An anonymous American living in a foreign country might not be in as much danger as a American living in the USA. Americans who drop out now can also say that they are not funding US wars, tyranny, or debt.
Americans should adjust their plans today. If you wanted to be a doctor or start a construction company and buy a McMansion, you should consider that the USA is collapsing and make other plans.
What would you do if you lived in Cambodia in 1975 and wanted to start a repair shop instead of being sent to the killing fields?
What would you do if you lived in Nazi Germany in 1940 and was drafted into the army?
What would you do if you lived in China in 1958?
When you live in a police state, you don't have choices.
Do you think that there might be a correlation between record debt and a record stock market?
The collapse of the US is not just a fight between freedom and tyranny, the fight in the USA today is a fight between good and evil.
Libertarian
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@dcjogger Nailed it !
Libertarian
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Weâve slipped away from a true republic. Now weâre slipping into a fascist system where itâs a combination of government, big business and authoritarian rule, and the suppression of the individual rights of each and every American citizen. When it comes to any significant differences on foreign policy, economic intervention, the Federal Reserve, a strong executive branch, a welfarism mixed with corporatism, both parties are very much alike. The major arguments in hotly contested presidential races are mostly for public consumption to convince the people they actually have a choice.
There comes a time when you need to walk the talk.
The USA needs a collective awakening.
Should Americans start the revolution now because of NSA wiretapping or because straws are illegal?
Where's the line?
Will Americans regret sitting in the concentration camps and wish that they had said something?
The US is falling apart because of debt, wars, and tyranny and Americans only care abut slavery reparations, homosexuality, and illegal immigrants.
People just give up when they live in police states.
Why do anything if you're just going to get arrested?
You can't even go outside today without being stopped and frisked by the Gestapo.
Americans are just animals now.
Freedom has been whittled away.
The government can do anything they want, but Americans can't change anything because the US is no longer a democracy, the voting machines can be hacked, and the only candidates are Nazis and Communists now.
Blacks, teens, homeless, sex offenders, drunks, potheads, illegal immigrants, Muslims, prostitutes, lawyers, reporters, gamblers, business people, protesters, dissidents, gun owners, and right-wingers are gradually being targeted.
Bump stocks were banned yesterday, silencers will be banned today, and pistols will be outlawed tomorrow.
How can you obey the law when depositing less than $10,000 into your own bank account is illegal? Do you respect the law when you're forced to buy expensive insurance that you don't want? Do you respect the law when guns are illegal?
How do you feel when plastic bags are banned because science says that
plastic bags are dangerous, but another study says that plastic bags are safe? How does anyone know what is best for you?
Why obey the law if the government and illegal aliens don't?
Do you think
tomorrow will be better?
WTF?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/08/no_author/civil-war-ii-coming/
The issue boils down to this: do we care about freedom? Do we care about responsibility and accountability? Do we care that our government and media have been bought and paid for? Do we care that average Americans are being looted in order to subsidize the fattest of cats on Wall Street and in government? Do we care? When the chips are down, will we stand up and fight, even if it means standing up against every stripe of fashionable opinion in politics and the media? Times like these have a way of telling us what kind of a people we are, and what kind of country we shall be.
- Libertarian
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