Some Americans say a revolution needs to start right now, but most Americans seem to think that they should just enjoy the fake booming economy and tolerate living in a police state, the risk of being arrested by the Gestapo at random, and being used as an example instead of attacking the government today and being arrested or killed for certain.
Americans seem to be saying that they will wait to rebel against tyranny, debt, and wars when the economy implodes and Americans are starving in the streets.
The guy who mows your lawn might be smart and notice the US decay, but he's probably too busy and would rather not think about it.
Your wife might be angry at you for spending so much time trying to wake people up and ridicule you by asking how many people you saved today, but someone has to speak up.
Are we just supposed to wait to go to the concentration camps?
How much evidence do you need?
You can feel the collapse in the air and you can be damn sure tomorrow won't be better.
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@dcjogger Because the government has immunities and is privileged. Government rulers are a not forced to make laws to restrict themselves.
A famous liberal in antiquity, June 5th, 1788, said, "This, sir, is my great objection to the Constitution, that there is no true responsibilityâand that the preservation of our liberty depends on the single chance of men being virtuous enough to make laws to punish themselves........Show me that age and country where the rights and liberties of the people were placed on the sole chance of their rulers being good men, without a consequent loss of liberty?"
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Henry%27s_speech_in_the_Virginia_Ratifying_Convention
It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
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I am, but, like you, few will heed your warnings
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Maybe the evils of the world caused by US debt, war, and tyranny could be solved by secession.
The US would not be dangerous if the USA became 3000 separate countries.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/11/paul-gottfried/secession-hope/
The US is now a police state where everything is illegal and Americans have no rights.
The 1% could confiscate guns and order Americans to go to the concentration camps tomorrow, but the ruling class do not have the manpower and the camps have not built yet.
The elites seem to prefer to slowly kill every possible bit of freedom. Yesterday bump stocks were banned, today silencers will be banned, and pistols will be outlawed tomorrow.
Not only are the ruling powers determined to kill off the 99%, Americans are embracing their slavery with glee.
The media screams the USA must bomb Iran and Americans clap with delight.
The elites say debt doesn't matter and Americans agree.
Trump could decree that every American get their thumbs chopped off with machetes and Americans would jump with joy.
Have Americans ever read a history book?
Americans today could either be a zombie and willing accomplice to US wars, debt, and tyranny and remain silent, attack the government, or look for a way to escape.
What kind of life do you have now when you must lie to your wife about your plans because you're afraid the NSA will hear you on her mobile phone?
Americans need to go hardcore about resisting the police state now.
Increase your privacy and become anonymous.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/7-privacy-tools-essential-making-citizenfour
Use gold, cash, and barter.
Avoid taxes.
Research buying a boat, submarine, or an island.
Try to avoid security cameras, license plate readers, and redlight cameras.
Americans really should try to live like the Amish or a primitive tribe in the Amazon or Vietnam.
Once you have a SSN and a name and the government has your fingerprints and DNA, the elites know who to look for when they launch their final solution against the 99%.
Do you think the ruling class will be able kick the debt can down the road for another 2, 5, 10, or 30 years?
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If the US dollar is weak, imports are expensive and US exports are cheap.
If the US dollar is strong, imports are cheap and US exports are expensive.
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The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.
The US is no longer a democracy. The government is no longer legitimate.
The government has unconstitutionally banned protesting, arrested reporters, outlawed guns, has forfeiture, checkpoints, torture, NSA wiretapping, indefinite detention without trials, TSA groping, and extrajudical assassination.
You cannot sue the government because the courts won't hear the case or will side with the government and uphold the law.
Now Americans live in a police state. The elites have won everything. Are Americans just supposed to wait to go to the concentration camps?
Will the tyranny stop increasing, will the wars be ended, and will the debt be reduced?
What kind of life is this? Is slavery better than death?
The elites do not need to pay a price?
Everyone is born for reason.
Should Americans do nothing?
Should Americans protest like Gandhi?
What happened to Mussolini, King Charles I, Gaddafi, and Ceausescu?
Aren't you just a little bothered? Are you having trouble sleeping? Aren't you just a little concerned?
Maybe the evils of the world caused by US debt, war, and tyranny could be solved by secession.
The US would not be dangerous if the USA became 3000 separate countries.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/11/paul-gottfried/secession-hope/
Freedom is everything and worth fighting for.
How are Americans supposed to feel when they were taught to hate Nazis and Communists, but are now told to Fascists and Commies?
WTF?
Americans who may have felt hope when Obama and Trump were elected realize that the US is now finished.
Everyone who thought Lenin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot would save them quickly found out that they made things worse.
The elites, the American zombies, Gestapo, soldiers, actors, censors, reporters, and politicians are all on the same side today and guarantee that wars, debt, and tyranny will continue.
Brave colonists used to tar and feather British officials, but Americans are too weak and degraded now to care.
Patriots could attack government officials who torture, shut down lemonade stands, and tax sodas, but who do you blame when the politicians pass a law banning feeding the homeless, the Gestapo arrests those who feed the homeless, and a jury convicts those who feed the homeless?
Do patriots go to war with all of society?
The USA is not a democracy and the government is not legitimate, but Americans are so depraved now that they cheer every retarded decree and abuse our overlords support.
Patriots cannot help to think that every American who embraces tyranny, hates the Bill of Rights, and remains silent now is a traitor.
Why can the Gestapo brandish weapons, but you can't?
Arresting mothers who send their kids to school in taxis, jailing Americans for photographing buildings, and outlawing yoga pants is real. This tyranny is not happening in a bubble on some distant planet by mysterious forces. This tyranny really is happening right now.
This increasing collapse into tyranny means everyone has a role to play.
Are you going to throw away your life to be a hero like Manning, Snowden, and Assange by resisting?
Will you try to justify living in a police state and paying taxes that fund wars and debt?
Will you go underground and throw your comfortable life and A/C, beer, TV, electricity, and plumbing away to live in the Amazon or on a sailboat?
Will your betray your country to unconstitutionally wiretap and grope Americans?
Some Americans who were duped to accept the police state because of scary drunkdrivers, drug users, illegal immigrants, sex offenders, and Muslims now may realize that tyranny has gone way too far.
People living in police states like Vietnam and China will tell you that they have freedom in a narrow range. Those who live in a police state may not be able to criticize the government or start a church, but they have the freedom to fly a kite or watch TV or start a business or work as long as they keep their head down.
One danger of tyranny is that it spreads. Soon Americans who resist by dropping out and refusing to pay taxes might be arrested and held in mental hospitals.
When Americans are sent to the concentration camps, Americans may say that they have the freedom to sleep on the left or right side of the cell.
Americans don't realize how insidious tyranny is. Millions of people in the USSR, East Germany, Cuba, China, and North Korea wasted their lives because anyone who stood out was arrested or killed. The Soviet Union was only able to copy US inventions because any Russian who excelled or took a risk was crushed.
Think.
The American decline is disturbing.
Americans scream that the world will not end if sodas are banned, but will the world end if sodas are legal?
You know the US is doomed when a Libertarian forum bans you and Americans say the ACLU, the Institute for Justice, the Libertarian Party, and Oathkeepers were all founded by Stalin.
You know that you live in hell when you lose your ID, but the bus or train that can take you to the city where you can replace your ID requires an ID to buy a ticket.
Americans think tyranny is a fun game, but Americans don't realize that only the leader can be famous in a police state.
In a free country, singers, actors, writers, and sports stars are not limited and can be successful because they are talented and work hard.
In a police state, every individual success is a state success. Every book, song, movie, and sports stars must glorify the state. Any writer or singer that criticizes the government disappears, is arrested, or is killed. Any dangerous book, movie, or song must be written in code.
In a police state, some of the most dangerous jobs are being a journalist, lawyer, or priest.
In a police state, the leader and citizens are praised as noble.
In a police state, enemy countries are portrayed as having brutal dictators and foreigners are mocked and ridiculed as savages.
Part of the reason the collapse of the US is so depressing today is that young Americans think censorship, gun bans, immorality, wiretapping, forfeiture, checkpoints, TSA groping, torture, NDAA indefinite detention, and extrajudicial assassination are perfectly acceptable.
Americans don't even know what Independence Day means.
This rapid decline into tyranny becomes obvious when dealing with the government today.
The Gestapo has become sinister since they know that they are above the law and they can arrest you for anything now that everything is illegal.
When everything is illegal, Americans have nothing to lose by resisting. Americans need to think like criminals now.
The US is no longer a democracy and all laws and taxes are not legitimate.
The government and illegal aliens don't obey the law, why should you?
They can't kill us all.
If you are wondering how to get your gold out of the US, consider using catapults, boats, and drones to cross borders.
If the USA doesn't steal your money through taxes, fees, fines, forfeiture, and inflation, the NSA could hack your bank account.
The technology exists and would a government that has NDAA indefinite detention without trial, torture, and extrajudicial assassination suddenly be ethical about stealing money from your bank account?
The elites, politicians, cops, soldiers, bankers, actors, reporters, and American zombies who say nothing about wars, debt, and tyranny are all responsible for the US collapse.
Spread the word.
Wow.
Americans scream tyranny is wonderful because the US has always been a police state, but what if the USA used to have freedom and lost it?
If Americans hate freedom then why did Americans fight the British?
If the US was always a police state then why did the founding fathers support free speech, protesting, religious freedom, gun rights, the right to silence, and property rights while opposing warrantless searches, civil forfeiture, torture, and extrajudicial assassinations?
Even if the US never had freedom, does that mean liberty is bad?
Did the USA have curfews, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, redlight cameras, license plate readers, and Jade Helm in 1980?
Did Americans have gun bans, business licenses, Social Security numbers, sales, income, or property taxes in 1890?
Were drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, and prostitution illegal in 1880?
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https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/lionel-shrivers-american-collapse
http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/we-re-all-inmates-in-the-american-police-state/article_e81415aa-16c8-11e5-8c24-bbaf57c99d50.html
http://blog.pennlive.com/capitol-notebook/2015/03/adios_land_of_the_free_-_new_s.html
http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/george-will-when-everything-is-a-crime/article_5b97f1cf-5168-59c2-99ce-8540d5ce6182.html
http://nevadanewsandviews.com/welcome-to-post-constitutional-america/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsa-begins-testing-fingerprint-check-082000663.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/as_trial_ends_surreal_scene_le.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-california-fighting-caffeine-dui-192312988.html
http://www.chattanoogan.com/2017/4/7/345647/Tennessee-Supreme-Court-Upholds-Police.aspx
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/12/judge_orders_man_arrested_for.html?ath=57736eac0e2c3addf91479a82deb9e5d
http://www.telegram.com/news/20160505/woman-arrested-for-staying-silent-during-traffic-stop-sues
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article153373524.html
http://libertarian.forumbuild.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4
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@dcjogger You have many absolutist statements and glittering generalizations in that diatribe. Prove them all.
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