Libertarian
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Everywhere one looks these days, the world seems to be moving away from debate on contentious subjects and toward demands that those who have unpopular opinions â or even just ask impertinent questions â be forcibly silenced.
âYou will never hear me mention his name,â Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said of Brenton Tarrant, the sole suspect in two deadly attacks on mosques in Christchurch. âHe may have sought notoriety but here in New Zealand we will give him nothing â not even his name.â
Thatâs fine as a personal decision, I guess, but not as a top-down decision for her fellow New Zealanders. Even as Ardern spoke, police working for her government were arresting at least two people for sharing the shooterâs live-streamed video of the attacks on social media.
Across the Tasman Sea, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is calling on the governments of G20 countries to implement measures âincluding appropriate filtering, detecting and removing of content by actors who encourage, normalize, recruit, facilitate or commit terrorist and violent atrocities.â
Letâs be clear about what Morrison, other âworld leaders,â and significant segments of activist communities and even the general public are demanding (and to a frightful degree already implementing): Internet censorship.
This isnât really a new development. The mosque attacks are merely the latest incident weaponized by politicians and activists in service to a long-running campaign against public discussion and debate that requires them to make arguments and persuade instead of just bark orders and compel.
The fictional âmemory holeâ of the IngSoc regime in George Orwellâs 1984 stood for more than half a century as an oft-cited and wisely acknowledged warning. Now that hole is opening up beneath us for real and threatening to suck us down into a new Dark Age of âthoughtcrimeâ and âunpersons.â
The threat is content-independent. Renaming climate change skeptics âdeniersâ and demanding âinvestigationsâ of them, or pressuring media to ban discussions of policy on vaccines is just as evil as suing Alex Jones for promulgating bizarre theories about the Sandy Hook massacre.
The only appropriate response to âbadâ speech â that is, speech one disagrees with â is âbetterâ speech.
Attempting to shut down your opponentsâ ability to participate in an argument isnât itself a winning argument. Forbidding your opponents to speak to a problem doesnât solve that problem.
In fact, those tactics are tantamount to admitting that your arguments are less persuasive and that your solutions canât withstand scrutiny.
Freedom of thought and expression are primary, foundational rights. They make it possible for us to hash out issues and solve problems peaceably instead of by force. Any attempt to suppress them is itself a call for totalitarianism and the alternative to those liberties is social and political death.
Everywhere one looks these days, the world seems to be moving away from debate on contentious subjects and toward demands that those who have unpopular opinions â or even just ask impertinent questions â be forcibly silenced.
âYou will never hear me mention his name,â Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said of Brenton Tarrant, the sole suspect in two deadly attacks on mosques in Christchurch. âHe may have sought notoriety but here in New Zealand we will give him nothing â not even his name.â
Thatâs fine as a personal decision, I guess, but not as a top-down decision for her fellow New Zealanders. Even as Ardern spoke, police working for her government were arresting at least two people for sharing the shooterâs live-streamed video of the attacks on social media.
Across the Tasman Sea, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is calling on the governments of G20 countries to implement measures âincluding appropriate filtering, detecting and removing of content by actors who encourage, normalize, recruit, facilitate or commit terrorist and violent atrocities.â
Letâs be clear about what Morrison, other âworld leaders,â and significant segments of activist communities and even the general public are demanding (and to a frightful degree already implementing): Internet censorship.
This isnât really a new development. The mosque attacks are merely the latest incident weaponized by politicians and activists in service to a long-running campaign against public discussion and debate that requires them to make arguments and persuade instead of just bark orders and compel.
The fictional âmemory holeâ of the IngSoc regime in George Orwellâs 1984 stood for more than half a century as an oft-cited and wisely acknowledged warning. Now that hole is opening up beneath us for real and threatening to suck us down into a new Dark Age of âthoughtcrimeâ and âunpersons.â
The threat is content-independent. Renaming climate change skeptics âdeniersâ and demanding âinvestigationsâ of them, or pressuring media to ban discussions of policy on vaccines is just as evil as suing Alex Jones for promulgating bizarre theories about the Sandy Hook massacre.
The only appropriate response to âbadâ speech â that is, speech one disagrees with â is âbetterâ speech.
Attempting to shut down your opponentsâ ability to participate in an argument isnât itself a winning argument. Forbidding your opponents to speak to a problem doesnât solve that problem.
In fact, those tactics are tantamount to admitting that your arguments are less persuasive and that your solutions canât withstand scrutiny.
Freedom of thought and expression are primary, foundational rights. They make it possible for us to hash out issues and solve problems peaceably instead of by force. Any attempt to suppress them is itself a call for totalitarianism and the alternative to those liberties is social and political death.
Libertarian
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Americans are so enslaved now that Americans scream that anyone who loves freedom, peace, and balanced budgets is a traitor and must get out of the USA.
Americans cannot see hypocrisy.
Americans swear that Biden is an evil monster for embracing war, debt, and tyranny, but then Americans turn around and insist Trump is a holy god for supporting war, debt, and the police state.
Strange how Trump can quickly regulate airline seats and ban bump stocks, but is powerless to stop illegal immigrants, reduce refugees, end wars, end Obamacare, reduce the debt, or restore the Bill of Rights.
4D chess, right?
Americans are only interested in bread and circuses, celebrities, movies, sports, sex, drugs, or irrelevant issues like free college, homosexuality, and slavery reparations.
Americans say surrender is the answer to tyranny.
Americans are not interested in solutions to the collapse. Americans only want to blame, point fingers, and say that they're not at fault and not responsible for anything.
Why can't Americans unite and agree that debt, wars, and tyranny are bad?
Do you think things would change in the US if Americans protested? What if the Gestapo, government workers, politicians, and soldiers went to work and were not sure that they would come home? What if Americans attacked government buildings?
Some of the problems with tyranny is that remaining silent means that you accept debt, wars, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.
Assange is in jail because of your silence.
The blood from US wars is on your hands.
Another problem with tyranny is that it grows.
Do Americans think that because straws are illegal now that the USA is a paradise? Do you think tyranny will not continue?
The US seems to be waiting for a spark like Yorktown today.
Will Americans revolt when the stock market crashes, property is nationalized, books are burned, guns are confiscated national ID card are required, passports are revoked, domestic travel permits are required, Americans are required to submit a DNA sample, give fingerprints, get microchip implants, and be registered in a facial scan database, Internet filters are required on all computers, mobile phones are banned, the Internet is shut down, free speech and protests are illegal, reporters are arrested, government loudspeakers are installed on street corners, newspapers, magazines, and TV and radio stations are closed, churches are shut, neighborhood watch groups are set up, undercover police are everywhere, warrantless home searches are routine, taxes are raised, cash is banned, there are negative interest rates, bank fees, bail-ins, capital controls, gold is outlawed, torture and extra-judicial assassinations are routine, government drones and robots patrol everywhere, lawyers are arrested, elections are canceled, juries are banned, courts have show trials, congress is eliminated, Americans are required to wear uniforms and attend study sessions, or concentration camps are opened and Americans are starved and killed?
What if Americans never rebel?
How do people live under tyranny?
If you lived in China in 1947 would you join the Communists, fight Communists, or flee to Taiwan?
Would a Vietnam prison guard in a re-education camp have ethics or try to justify his job?
How would feel if you spent your whole life in the USSR? Would you think that you are free? Would you think bread lines are normal?
How would feel if you lived in North Korea and were in a concentration camp because your dad found a Bible?
Cuba is a police state because they are cowards.
Are Americans pussies, too?
Can't freedom go viral?
Do you think tyranny is a joke? Do you see what is happening?
Americans are so enslaved now that Americans scream that anyone who loves freedom, peace, and balanced budgets is a traitor and must get out of the USA.
Americans cannot see hypocrisy.
Americans swear that Biden is an evil monster for embracing war, debt, and tyranny, but then Americans turn around and insist Trump is a holy god for supporting war, debt, and the police state.
Strange how Trump can quickly regulate airline seats and ban bump stocks, but is powerless to stop illegal immigrants, reduce refugees, end wars, end Obamacare, reduce the debt, or restore the Bill of Rights.
4D chess, right?
Americans are only interested in bread and circuses, celebrities, movies, sports, sex, drugs, or irrelevant issues like free college, homosexuality, and slavery reparations.
Americans say surrender is the answer to tyranny.
Americans are not interested in solutions to the collapse. Americans only want to blame, point fingers, and say that they're not at fault and not responsible for anything.
Why can't Americans unite and agree that debt, wars, and tyranny are bad?
Do you think things would change in the US if Americans protested? What if the Gestapo, government workers, politicians, and soldiers went to work and were not sure that they would come home? What if Americans attacked government buildings?
Some of the problems with tyranny is that remaining silent means that you accept debt, wars, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.
Assange is in jail because of your silence.
The blood from US wars is on your hands.
Another problem with tyranny is that it grows.
Do Americans think that because straws are illegal now that the USA is a paradise? Do you think tyranny will not continue?
The US seems to be waiting for a spark like Yorktown today.
Will Americans revolt when the stock market crashes, property is nationalized, books are burned, guns are confiscated national ID card are required, passports are revoked, domestic travel permits are required, Americans are required to submit a DNA sample, give fingerprints, get microchip implants, and be registered in a facial scan database, Internet filters are required on all computers, mobile phones are banned, the Internet is shut down, free speech and protests are illegal, reporters are arrested, government loudspeakers are installed on street corners, newspapers, magazines, and TV and radio stations are closed, churches are shut, neighborhood watch groups are set up, undercover police are everywhere, warrantless home searches are routine, taxes are raised, cash is banned, there are negative interest rates, bank fees, bail-ins, capital controls, gold is outlawed, torture and extra-judicial assassinations are routine, government drones and robots patrol everywhere, lawyers are arrested, elections are canceled, juries are banned, courts have show trials, congress is eliminated, Americans are required to wear uniforms and attend study sessions, or concentration camps are opened and Americans are starved and killed?
What if Americans never rebel?
How do people live under tyranny?
If you lived in China in 1947 would you join the Communists, fight Communists, or flee to Taiwan?
Would a Vietnam prison guard in a re-education camp have ethics or try to justify his job?
How would feel if you spent your whole life in the USSR? Would you think that you are free? Would you think bread lines are normal?
How would feel if you lived in North Korea and were in a concentration camp because your dad found a Bible?
Cuba is a police state because they are cowards.
Are Americans pussies, too?
Can't freedom go viral?
Do you think tyranny is a joke? Do you see what is happening?
Libertarian
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@dcjogger
Bread and circuses, it extended into the political system prior to the fall of Rome
Blood guts and sex wasn't just for arena
The senate became a circus towards the end.........
Where nothing got done, two sides formed and became diametrically opposed and eventually mortal enemies..things are starting to sound eerily familiar ð
Americans are so enslaved now that Americans scream that anyone who loves freedom, peace, and balanced budgets is a traitor and must get out of the USA.
Americans cannot see hypocrisy.
Americans swear that Biden is an evil monster for embracing war, debt, and tyranny, but then Americans turn around and insist Trump is a holy god for supporting war, debt, and the police state.
Strange how Trump can quickly regulate airline seats and ban bump stocks, but is powerless to stop illegal immigrants, reduce refugees, end wars, end Obamacare, reduce the debt, or restore the Bill of Rights.
4D chess, right?
Americans are only interested in bread and circuses, celebrities, movies, sports, sex, drugs, or irrelevant issues like free college, homosexuality, and slavery reparations.
Americans say surrender is the answer to tyranny.
Americans are not interested in solutions to the collapse. Americans only want to blame, point fingers, and say that they're not at fault and not responsible for anything.
Why can't Americans unite and agree that debt, wars, and tyranny are bad?
Do you think things would change in the US if Americans protested? What if the Gestapo, government workers, politicians, and soldiers went to work and were not sure that they would come home? What if Americans attacked government buildings?
Some of the problems with tyranny is that remaining silent means that you accept debt, wars, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.
Assange is in jail because of your silence.
The blood from US wars is on your hands.
Another problem with tyranny is that it grows.
Do Americans think that because straws are illegal now that the USA is a paradise? Do you think tyranny will not continue?
The US seems to be waiting for a spark like Yorktown today.
Will Americans revolt when the stock market crashes, property is nationalized, books are burned, guns are confiscated national ID card are required, passports are revoked, domestic travel permits are required, Americans are required to submit a DNA sample, give fingerprints, get microchip implants, and be registered in a facial scan database, Internet filters are required on all computers, mobile phones are banned, the Internet is shut down, free speech and protests are illegal, reporters are arrested, government loudspeakers are installed on street corners, newspapers, magazines, and TV and radio stations are closed, churches are shut, neighborhood watch groups are set up, undercover police are everywhere, warrantless home searches are routine, taxes are raised, cash is banned, there are negative interest rates, bank fees, bail-ins, capital controls, gold is outlawed, torture and extra-judicial assassinations are routine, government drones and robots patrol everywhere, lawyers are arrested, elections are canceled, juries are banned, courts have show trials, congress is eliminated, Americans are required to wear uniforms and attend study sessions, or concentration camps are opened and Americans are starved and killed?
What if Americans never rebel?
How do people live under tyranny?
If you lived in China in 1947 would you join the Communists, fight Communists, or flee to Taiwan?
Would a Vietnam prison guard in a re-education camp have ethics or try to justify his job?
How would feel if you spent your whole life in the USSR? Would you think that you are free? Would you think bread lines are normal?
How would feel if you lived in North Korea and were in a concentration camp because your dad found a Bible?
Cuba is a police state because they are cowards.
Are Americans pussies, too?
Can't freedom go viral?
Do you think tyranny is a joke? Do you see what is happening?
Libertarian
boosted
@dcjogger can't have those Americans gettin too free speechy.
Libertarian
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Does anyone get the feeling that the Smollett, free college, and Epstein stories are just diversions from the real issues of debt, wars, and the police state?
There is so much evidence that the USA is collapsing now that you can't ignore it, but no one does a damn thing.
Something epic is coming like the French Revolution, US Revolution, the Civil War, WWII, or the Soviet collapse.
There is no serious effort to end the wars, reduce the debt, or restore the Bill of Rights. The elites are getting everything they want and the 99% don't care.
Insanity.
Maybe there is no hope, but one wonders if Americans cannot at least make an effort to think of solutions or wake people up so that they can prepare instead of just waiting for a spark that leads to collapse.
Can't anyone say anything?
Why not print up bumper stickers, pass out flyers, protest, go on hunger strikes, rent billboards, or make a website?
Couldn't there be a free market solution to the collapse? Couldn't there be mass awakening? Shouldn't freedom go viral?
Libertarian
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@dcjogger I have heard cucked democrat fucks say this in person. It should be a capital offense- people that stupid are a threat to you and the nation.
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