The US used to have a Bill of Rights.
Libertarian
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The US collapse has become so obvious now that you might wonder if the decline is by design and not by coincidence.
Most everyone knows about the decay, but they may not be sure why or what to do. Americans may not understand the urgency to prepare. The US could fail in the next 5 years, 10 years, or 30 years.
Maybe Americans can get people talking by holding a meeting or a forum in a restaurant, meeting room, college, library, university, church, or nonprofit. Put an ad on the radio, or in the newspaper, or pass out flyers.
Use the meeting to give an overview of why the USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state today.
Mention the results of a collapse and solutions to the collapse. Talk about setting up a commune, protesting, jury nullification, going Galt, militias, prepping, secession, and emigration.
Talk about how Communist countries kill the economy and then set up special economic zones. Ask why entire nations cannot be an economic zone.
You can discuss the advantages of secession by saying that there could be a new Bill of Rights, trade wars could end, a new country could print their own currency, there would be peace, no regulations, no nanny state laws, no minimum wages, no concentration camps, no free speech bans, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, no security cameras, no license plate readers, no checkpoints, no redlight cameras, no speed cameras, no FBI facial and voice recognition, no curfews, no gun bans, no NSA wiretapping, no searches without warrants, no private prisons, no mandatory minimums, no 3 strikes laws, no DNA databases, no CISPA, no SOPA, no IMBRA, no private prison quotas, no no knock raids, no take down notices, no no fly lists, no terror watch lists, no Constitution free zones, no stop and frisk, no 3 strikes laws, no kill switches, no National Security Letters, no DNA databases, no kill lists, no FBAR, no FATCA, no Operation Chokepoint, no TSA groping, no civil forfeiture, no CIA torture, no NDAA indefinite detention, no secret FISA courts, no FEMA camps, no laws requiring passports for domestic travel, no IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, no gun and ammo stockpiles, no laws outlawing protesting, no police militarization, and no Jade Helm.
Mention that secession might be rejected by Americans who want US welfare.
Ask and answer questions. Brainstorm.
Any problems created by man can be solved by man.
Fighting for liberty will not make you a billionaire, but Americans who think that they can keep their money and avoid being arrested or killed by laying low now will find out that they will lose their money and be arrested and killed in the end. You have nothing left to lose fighting for freedom.
One can understand why the elites want to kill off the 99%, but to see Americans completely surrender is insane. The whole country seems to be committing suicide.
Should Americans dance on the Titanic?
What would you do if you lived in Rome in 480 AD and there were no tax collectors, but there was no one to protect you from barbarians?
What would you do after the USSR collapsed and wanted a passport, but there was no government?
Libertarian
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Voting cannot fix the US now. All that can save the USA is a violent revolution.
Trump may or may not be part of the establishment, but the 1% can easily make Trump dance if the elites want him to. The ruling powers control the government and the media.
Since everything is illegal, how can you drain the swamp if firing corrupt officials is against the law?
The Deep State has a black budget and can torture, drug, blackmail, and threaten a president and his family.
The shadow government can intercept the letters, emails, and phone calls of the president.
The ruling powers can forge presidential letters that threaten wars against foreign countries.
The Deep State can bribe and threaten workers to disobey presidential orders.
The elites can make up, insinuate, or use real evidence to smear people by running stories about how someone is a foreign spy, junkie, drunk, or homosexual.
The 1% can find real or fake victims and persuade the victims to sue the president.
The Deep State can find or download child porn onto computers used by the president.
The Deep State could say that the president is a tax cheat.
The media could run stories claiming that the president is mentally ill.
Even if the Deep State didn't lie or find dirt on someone, the elites could run stories about a family member, employer, friend, or neighbor who was involved in a scandal.
The only people who can become president now are billionaires or people paid off by the elites because elections cost money. The wealthy would rather hire a puppet because the rich don't want to become a target.
The US is past the point return.
Americans should go Galt, dropout, become mobile, and go underground today. Anyone who has a house or a car becomes a target because of property taxes.
Americans should be fanatic about promoting freedom and be obsessed with resisting.
Protest.
Make songs and art about tyranny.
Disobey nanny state laws. Make laws unenforceable.
When guns are banned, Americans might drive trucks and fly planes into government buildings.
The elites can't kill us all. There aren't enough prisons.
The US is no longer a democracy. Politicians, government officials, the Gestapo, and soldiers are puppets for the 1% and Americans should make traitors feel extremely uncomfortable.
Americans shouldn't say that they are waiting for more proof that the USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state. All the lines have been crossed.
Thinking that the elites will turn around and reduce the debt, end the wars, and restore the Bill of Rights is delusional.
The US is going to get much worse. All that is unknown is when. Will the ruling class be able to kick the debt can down the road for another 50 years?
Libertarian
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Americans scream that the successful must be executed, but where would humanity be now without Socrates, Galileo, Isaac Newton, Michelangelo, Columbus, Darwin, Ben Franklin, Rockefeller, Henry Ford, and Steve Jobs?
One problem today is that everyone thinks that they are exempt from tyranny and freedom doesn't benefit them. Nazis think that only Communists will be arrested and Communists believe only Fascists go to jail.
Do you honestly believe that white people are never arrested?
The elites think that they are above the law, but billionaires get arrested, too. The NSA doesn't wiretap the ruling class?
One problem with the police state is that tyranny continues until there is only a dictator and even he is at risk of being toppled.
Letting 100 criminals go free is better that killing one innocent man.
Live and let live.
The US is rapidly heading to a very dark place.
The elites obviously wants the 99% dead. The ruling powers promote wars, debt, tyranny, abortion, immorality, regulations, trade wars, welfare, suicide, offshoring, illegal immigration, and want Americans to be herded into the cities so the elites can then cut off the food supply.
Not only do the ruling powers clearly want the 99% dead, Americans only care about drugs, alcohol, bread and circuses, sex, music, movies, sports, and celebrities instead of resisting or protesting.
When your country is about to self-destruct, the most logical response for any thinking person is to leave. Americans urgently need to go into exile now before the US is locked down. Americans should lay low, drop out, look for a way to get a fake ID, and don't carry a mobile phone around.
Manning, Assange, and Snowden stood up and look what happened to them.
Do you really think that the US Ponzi economy won't collapse in the next 50 years?
Even if you're the last American defending freedom you should keep doing it.
Americans have lost their minds.
There is no hope for the US.
There is no indication Americans are resisting wars, debt, or tyranny.
The only options Americans have now are Deep State controlled Trump or Communism.
Voices of reason that support peace, balanced budgets, and freedom like Rand Paul and Amash are being ignored.
The only thing the government understands is force.
Americans may look outside and think that everything appears normal, but soon surveillance cameras might be installed in front of your house, homeless people will move into your neighborhood, your income tax will rise, and your property taxes will soar.
The Gestapo may one day commit summary executions on the street.
The hypothetical laws have become actual laws and the possibility of collapse will soon become a real collapse.
You hate to say the sky falling, but the sky is falling.
Do you really think that the US debt will be able to reach $40 trillion or $300 trillion with no consequences?
What will you do when your ATM card doesn't work?
Do you think that you would be safer on a farm with no electricity in Laos or New York City when the stock market collapses?
Do you really think that the US government cannot build concentration camps in a hurry?
One would hope every state would secede from Washington, DC, but every American soon being employed by the government seems more likely.
Americans either need to dropout and become nameless and stateless nomads or buy canned food, guns, and gold today.
The elites want the 99% dead and Americans are too immoral, distracted, degraded, depraved, divided, and crippled to care.
Americans don't seem to mind if straws, toothpicks, backpacks, perfume, or toothpaste are banned.
Americans scream guns need to outlawed to prevent murders, but isn't there already a law against murder? Should ropes, rocks, baseball bats, pillows, swimming pools, and fists be banned, too?
The USA used to be rich and Vietnam was so poor that the Vietnamese rented cameras to take pictures.
Now Americans have gone insane and seem to be doing everything possible to run the US into the ground so that the USA will look like North Korea.
The US may be lost and only those here are able to wake people up.
Americans scream that the successful must be executed, but where would humanity be now without Socrates, Galileo, Isaac Newton, Michelangelo, Columbus, Darwin, Ben Franklin, Rockefeller, Henry Ford, and Steve Jobs?
One problem today is that everyone thinks that they are exempt from tyranny and freedom doesn't benefit them. Nazis think that only Communists will be arrested and Communists believe only Fascists go to jail.
Do you honestly believe that white people are never arrested?
The elites think that they are above the law, but billionaires get arrested, too. The NSA doesn't wiretap the ruling class?
One problem with the police state is that tyranny continues until there is only a dictator and even he is at risk of being toppled.
Letting 100 criminals go free is better that killing one innocent man.
Live and let live.
The US is rapidly heading to a very dark place.
The elites obviously wants the 99% dead. The ruling powers promote wars, debt, tyranny, abortion, immorality, regulations, trade wars, welfare, suicide, offshoring, illegal immigration, and want Americans to be herded into the cities so the elites can then cut off the food supply.
Not only do the ruling powers clearly want the 99% dead, Americans only care about drugs, alcohol, bread and circuses, sex, music, movies, sports, and celebrities instead of resisting or protesting.
When your country is about to self-destruct, the most logical response for any thinking person is to leave. Americans urgently need to go into exile now before the US is locked down. Americans should lay low, drop out, look for a way to get a fake ID, and don't carry a mobile phone around.
Manning, Assange, and Snowden stood up and look what happened to them.
Do you really think that the US Ponzi economy won't collapse in the next 50 years?
If the rate of new laws grows every year by 10% and only 1% of Americans become Libertarians, you could say that tyranny is winning.
Looks like Americans need to up their game.
Americans don't care about freedom, but things are getting serious. Tyranny just increases constantly.
Couldn't Americans get out of their echo chambers and wake people up?
Who would have thought in 1980 that the USA would soon have nanny state laws, regulations, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, searches without warrants, mandatory minimums, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, private prisons, FOSTA, TSA groping, and Jade Helm?
Maybe Americans might be a little safer in Chile when the USA starts WWIII with Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea.
https://ideapod.com/top-10-safest-countries-world-war-3-breaks/
Voting cannot fix the US now. All that can save the USA is a violent revolution.
Trump may or may not be part of the establishment, but the 1% can easily make Trump dance if the elites want him to. The ruling powers control the government and the media.
Since everything is illegal, how can you drain the swamp if firing corrupt officials is against the law?
The Deep State has a black budget and can torture, drug, blackmail, and threaten a president and his family.
The shadow government can intercept the letters, emails, and phone calls of the president.
The ruling powers can forge presidential letters that threaten wars against foreign countries.
The Deep State can bribe and threaten workers to disobey presidential orders.
The elites can make up, insinuate, or use real evidence to smear people by running stories about how someone is a foreign spy, junkie, drunk, or homosexual.
The 1% can find real or fake victims and persuade the victims to sue the president.
The Deep State can find or download child porn onto computers used by the president.
The Deep State could say that the president is a tax cheat.
The media could run stories claiming that the president is mentally ill.
Even if the Deep State didn't lie or find dirt on someone, the elites could run stories about a family member, employer, friend, or neighbor who was involved in a scandal.
The only people who can become president now are billionaires or people paid off by the elites because elections cost money. The wealthy would rather hire a puppet because the rich don't want to become a target.
The US is past the point return.
Americans should go Galt, dropout, become mobile, and go underground today. Anyone who has a house or a car becomes a target because of property taxes.
Americans should be fanatic about promoting freedom and be obsessed with resisting.
Protest.
Make songs and art about tyranny.
Disobey nanny state laws. Make laws unenforceable.
When guns are banned, Americans might drive trucks and fly planes into government buildings.
The elites can't kill us all. There aren't enough prisons.
The US is no longer a democracy. Politicians, government officials, the Gestapo, and soldiers are puppets for the 1% and Americans should make traitors feel extremely uncomfortable.
Americans shouldn't say that they are waiting for more proof that the USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state. All the lines have been crossed.
Thinking that the elites will turn around and reduce the debt, end the wars, and restore the Bill of Rights is delusional.
The US is going to get much worse. All that is unknown is when. Will the ruling class be able to kick the debt can down the road for another 50 years?
Libertarian
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The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state.
The elites are obviously determined to blow up the world and Americans don't care.
Americans should be marching in the streets with pitchforks and torches now, but Americans are too comfortable. The water and electricity still work and the US Ponzi economy gives the illusion of wealth.
Maybe patriots could wake people up by anonymously making a movie or documentary about the US collapse.
Making a film doesn't need to be expensive if patriots used volunteers and friends.
The movie could start with some background on Rome, US wars, debt, and police state and the disturbing similarities between 1929 and 2008, the 1930's and 2010's trade wars and depressions, and WWII and WWIII. The film should also mention the US oligarchy, campaign donations, media, Hollywood, and Wall Street.
Patriots could show scenes of black SUVs, black school buses, prop guns, no knock raids, black helmeted actors dressed as SWAT teams raiding homes and rounding up Americans to be sent to the concentration camps.
Patriots could also make a documentary about the collapse using interviews with the Gestapo, government officials, politicians, professors, and ordinary Americans.
Test the awareness of everyone by asking if they realize that the USA is in debt, at war, and is a police state.
Have the interviewees heard of curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm? Do they know about the US Revolution and the Civil War?
Ask what will they do when the economy collapses. Are they prepping now? Will they just follow orders?
Post the movies online.
The USA may end in a ball of flame, but to sit here and just wait to die is insane.
The founding fathers risked their wealth, liberty, and lives to give Americans freedom.
Are you just going to throw it all way? Do you have any responsibility? Does your conscience bother you? Will you just quietly go to the concentration camps or will you say that you tried to resist?
Why are only Manning, Snowden, and Assange willing to throw away their lives fighting for liberty?
Everyone is born for a reason.
The slow decline of the US is about to turn into a steep dive.
You hate to cry wolf, but there is no hope for the US now.
The writing is on the wall.
Biden or Trump won't save the US.
The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state.
There is no rule of law. The US is not a democracy. Everything is illegal.
The wars are not being ended.
The debt is not being reduced.
Politicians won't repeal laws.
Courts uphold every law.
Americans are too moronic, depraved, degraded, immoral, distracted, or divided to care.
Governments don't build police states and armies if they don't intend to use them.
Do you think record debt will end well?
You know that the US is doomed when vendors fear selling goods to the government because the government could just accuse businesses of fraud and then steal their property and arrest them.
You know that the USA is doomed when you are not sure if you will be jailed today.
Do you really think every day after today will look the same? Do you see any resistance from Americans? Do you see anything in the USA that indicates hope? Is anything improving at all?
You know that the USA is doomed when the government is building a wall, is about to declare a National Emergency, close the border, and construct concentration camps and Americans think only illegal aliens will be affected.
What if gun bans are not to keep you safe from niggers, but to keep the elites safe from the 99%?
The ruling class wants you dead.
Do you honestly believe that DUI laws, DWI checkpoints, seatbelt laws, car liability insurance laws, neighborhood watch groups, mandatory minimums, IMBRA, 3 strikes laws, curfews, police militarization, teen boot camps, school metal detectors, private prisons, chain gangs, nanny state laws, the Patriot Act, NSA wiretapping, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, Jade Helm, sneak and peek warrants, policing for profit, no refusal blood checkpoints, license plate readers, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, tattoo databases, gun bans, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, CISPA, SOPA, private prison quotas, supermax prisons, FOSTA, sex offender registration laws, and sex offender restriction laws don't exist? Do you think this is all a fun game that isn't happening? Is anyone connecting the dots? Do you think that you are above the law? Do you feel safer now?
There comes a point when hypothetical tyranny becomes real tyranny and possible collapse becomes actual collapse.
Americans who once thought that the USA would last another 100 years are rapidly becoming more pessimistic.
No one has a crystal ball and knows the future, but why not be on the safe side and leave?
Have Americans never read a history book before?
The window is closing. Save yourself and get out of the US before it's late.
Do you think that the US wouldn't launch drone strikes on Idaho?
Would you rather be a German living in Chile or be a German living in Germany in 1933?
Would you rather be a Cambodian living in Mexico or be a Cambodian living in Cambodia in 1975?
All the lines have been crossed.
Stop being complacent.
Wake up.
Pass the word.
The future looks grim.
How could Americans who hated Communism become Communists?
How can Americans say that they love the free market and then turn around and say that they hate free trade?
Libertarians might think Americans must be awake since the news carries constant stories about wars, debt, and tyranny, but you might be surprised to find that actually Americans are idiots and are living in a bubble.
Some Americans may have heard about NSA wiretapping, but they may not know about no-knock raids. Americans are not connecting the dots. Americans today have tunnel vision and are too distracted, divided, depraved, degraded, and immoral.
Americans do not know what is happening or what to do, and no one says a word.
Many Americans will tell you that defeating Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea would be easy, debt doesn't need to be paid back, and that the USA is a free country.
Americans scream people will starve to death without food stamps, but what did Americans do in 1920?
Can the US government just make a decree that the USA cannot go bankrupt? Did printing money make Zimbabwe rich? Did debt work out well for Rome?
Americans justify every decree by saying laws enacted in one place could never possibly expand to another state.
Do you think TSA groping doesn't happen?
Will you shrug when the government decrees that every American 21 and under must get their thumbs amputated because you won't be affected?
Are seatbelt checkpoints just fake news?
Will you chuckle when your friend gets shot in the back by the FBI?
Now that the US is a police state, maybe Americans should react to tyranny.
The US government is a force of evil.
If you pay taxes now then you are no different than the elites pushing wars, debt, and tyranny, politicians who write laws enslaving Americans, the Gestapo enforcing decrees, and the soldiers who are conducting the US wars.
Security cameras that go up, must come down.
Government workers that go to work should worry if they will come home at night.
When guns are banned, Americans might drive trucks into government buildings.
Staying alive is natural, but every minute Americans wait to resist strengthens tyranny. Americans must make sacrifices, risk being arrested, and risk death. If Americans surrender then they should just jump into the ovens.
Concentration camps, the Cultural Revolution, and the killing fields were real and history is repeating itself.
Will you say that resisted tyranny or will you say that you stayed quiet?
Americans need to dropout, go Galt, leave the USA, become anonymous, and lay low soon. Be mobile and don't stick around one place long because people talk. You can't be the dumb foreigner if you stay in one place for 20 years.
Soon cash will be banned and microchips will be sewn into clothes and you'll need to have a microchip implant to travel, get a bank account, go to the doctor, work, or go school.
After Americans are starved and killed in the concentration camps, the elites will use robots to do the labor.
Everybody dies, but what kind of life is this?
The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state.
The elites are obviously determined to blow up the world and Americans don't care.
Americans should be marching in the streets with pitchforks and torches now, but Americans are too comfortable. The water and electricity still work and the US Ponzi economy gives the illusion of wealth.
Maybe patriots could wake people up by anonymously making a movie or documentary about the US collapse.
Making a film doesn't need to be expensive if patriots used volunteers and friends.
The movie could start with some background on Rome, US wars, debt, and police state and the disturbing similarities between 1929 and 2008, the 1930's and 2010's trade wars and depressions, and WWII and WWIII. The film should also mention the US oligarchy, campaign donations, media, Hollywood, and Wall Street.
Patriots could show scenes of black SUVs, black school buses, prop guns, no knock raids, black helmeted actors dressed as SWAT teams raiding homes and rounding up Americans to be sent to the concentration camps.
Patriots could also make a documentary about the collapse using interviews with the Gestapo, government officials, politicians, professors, and ordinary Americans.
Test the awareness of everyone by asking if they realize that the USA is in debt, at war, and is a police state.
Have the interviewees heard of curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm? Do they know about the US Revolution and the Civil War?
Ask what will they do when the economy collapses. Are they prepping now? Will they just follow orders?
Post the movies online.
The USA may end in a ball of flame, but to sit here and just wait to die is insane.
The founding fathers risked their wealth, liberty, and lives to give Americans freedom.
Are you just going to throw it all way? Do you have any responsibility? Does your conscience bother you? Will you just quietly go to the concentration camps or will you say that you tried to resist?
Why are only Manning, Snowden, and Assange willing to throw away their lives fighting for liberty?
Everyone is born for a reason.
Libertarian
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Tyranny might sound nice in the short term, but tyranny ends in slavery.
Living in a police state is like living in a prison. The education, healthcare, clothes, food, and housing are free and prisons are safe.
The problem is that the hardworkers quit and the police state becomes a real prison with slavery.
Some say the civil war will start when the economy crashes and Americans are starving in the street, but what if the elites are not going to wait that long?
The USA is already a police state.
What if the ruling class will use some kind of real or fake emergency like Russia or Ebola to force Americans to willingly go to the concentration camps?
What if Fargo is liquidated by the US Army? Will Americans revolt or will they just shrug?
If the US armed terrorists to overthrow Assad then why doesn't the USA arm the French so that they can overthrow Macon?
Who will supply American rebels when the US Civil War 2.0 starts?
The elites always sell tyranny as something that benefits you and only punishes others.
Checkpoints were sold as a way to stop evil drunk-drivers, but now checkpoints are for everyone.
TSA groping, CIA torture, kill lists, and NSA wiretapping were sold as a way to stop Muslims, but now they are for everyone.
Forfeiture was sold as a way to stop drug users, but now is used for everyone.
Gun bans will be sold as a way to stop negroes from shooting people, but they will soon be for everyone.
Free speech will be banned to stop flag-burning, protesting, porn, reporting, advertising, prostitution, and hate speech.
Concentration camps and the wall are sold as a way to control illegal immigrants, but they will soon be for everyone.
Americans will never learn.
The US is no longer a democracy and voting doesn't work when your only choices are either a Nazi or a Commie.
Do Americans fire the first shot on soldiers and the Gestapo now or will Americans just cowardly tolerate tyranny like the Chinese, Cubans, Cambodians, Vietnamese, and North Koreans do?
Americans today should either be leaving the USA or planning for the collapse.
This tyranny cannot go on forever. What kind of life is this?
Americans scream that everything must be illegal, but why don't Americans become like the Amish?
The Amish don't like driver licenses, welfare, flying, mobile phones, homosexuality, guns, tattoos, drugs, alcohol, and smoking, but the Amish would rather shun or move away from those who violate the rules instead of arresting them.
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