@dcjogger I will opt for that dangerous freedom... Do you know where to actually find some?
Nazis and Commies scream that there needs to be a civil war because of illegal immigrants, homosexuality, and marijuana, but no one cares that the US is a bankrupt warmongering police state.
While the USA is headed for a collapse, maybe the 99% should unite and fight the elites who are the real enemy instead of each other.
If Americans cannot be on the same page then why doesn't the USA break up into 2 or 3 separate countries or why don't all 50 states secede from Washington, DC?
Why don't Americans try to convince the Gestapo and soldiers that they work for the bankers and that the Gestapo and soldiers are traitors to the 99%? Getting rid of the bankers would be easy if no one protected them.
Do you really want to kill your neighbor or cousin because they support homosexuality?
Are Americans unable to recognize hypocrisy?
Can anyone take the moral high ground now?
Can Commies see the hypocrisy of supporting marijuana while outlawing vaping?
Nazis hate Commies because Commies love free trade and illegal immigrants, but Fascists used to support free trade and illegal immigration.
Why was Obama an evil monster for defending Obamacare and gun bans, but Trump is a holy god for keeping Obamacare and supporting gun control?
WTF?
Would you kill someone because they wore the wrong color? Do you really support what you believe or are you just parroting your team talking points?
Would the USA really be a utopia if all the Jews, Muslims, females, queers, illegal aliens, and blacks were dead?
The first US Civil War was a pretty black and white issue. The South supported slavery and the North didn't.
Civil War 2.0 wouldn't be so clear-cut.
What would you do if you were Spanish during the Spanish Civil War or Chinese during the Chinese Civil War? Would you pick a side or leave?
The advantage of leaving the US now is that you might stay alive temporarily, but the danger of leaving the USA and not fighting is that Libertarians who flee to live in the Amazon, Siberia, or on a sailboat risk finding that tyranny might finally chase them down.
@dcjogger right now the problem is less about "big govt" than it is about out of control government giving away american resources and tax dollars to wealthy elites and foreign powers at the expense of the american people. if "big govt" actually spent the tax money on america, we wouldnt be in this situation right now. at heart, i, too, am libertarian. but, frankly, im not sure that is going to work right now, shy of abolishing the federal government completely and starting over with nothing but the constitution.
@dcjogger On a side note: Too many people confuse liberty with freedom.... Just saying.
In theory, the $22 trillion US debt could be paid off in 6 years if 100% of US tax revenues from the $4 trillion annual budget went toward the debt and Social Security was ended.
This will not happen because the elites have paid off the politicians and too many people make money from welfare and the wars.
The only end to the debt will be a a total collapse of the economy like the USSR.
No one knows, but a stock market crash could happen in the next 10 years. Social Security will be bankrupt in 2034.
Leaving now would be the best bet.
Consider moving to Chile or New Zealand.
@dcjogger So frustrating to hear, there outta be a law against that rather than what law did government make that caused that? I read a post a few minutes ago with that theme and was gonna comment but it would have fallen on the ears of someone who prays to authority no matter how illegitimate that authority is..
@dcjogger we can suggest to each other... ð
@strangecorn @dcjogger speak for yourself; this "we" shit is presumptuous.
Regardless of how you feel about specific drugs, the reality of self-ownership means we all have a right to use them (any of them that we choose provided we can afford them).
And that doesn't mean you can't advocate people avoid drugs. Educate, don't legislate!
For me: there are 5 or so drugs that I want to use (many quite irregularly) and I'm curious if you'd put me in a cage for choosing a lifestyle you don't personally want for yourself.
The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state now.
Slavery seems to be the natural state of mankind.
If you went to a net cafe in China 20 years ago you might think everybody would be furiously making websites and posting on forums about how to resist, but instead you would have seen everyone playing video games.
Now that the US is a police state, patriots have found out that Americans are cowards, too.
No one wants to be the among the first ones to go out into the street with pitchforks and torches or break a window.
One of the other options Patriots have today to resist tyranny is to just dropout, go Galt, go off the grid, opt-out, do not participate, and do not comply.
The government is not legitimate. The US is no longer a democracy. The government and illegal aliens don't obey the law, why should Americans?
Don't pay taxes.
Do not give your fingerprints or DNA to the government.
Do not get microchipped.
Do not get a driver license, business license, fishing license, or passport.
Don't use your name.
Do not pay taxes.
Do not call the police.
If the government says baseball hats are illegal, wear a baseball hat.
If the government says guns are illegal, buy a gun.
No one rules if no one obeys.
Americans think they are free now, but what rights do they have?
Twenty years patriots warned that tyranny would come to the USA and now it has.
Do you think that the record global debt bomb, media cries for war, and the police state are just a coincidence?
Do you think that only having 3 websites on the entire Internet that allow free speech is a little odd?
Do think TSA groping doesn't happen and NSA wiretapping doesn't exist?
The US Ponzi economy might continue for 2, 5, or 10 years, but what will Americans do when Social Security checks bounce in 15 years?
What will the government do when the debt is $40 trillion and the interest is larger than than government revenue?
What will you do when your ATM card doesn't work?
What will you do when the stock market falls 75%?
What will you do when inflation is 1 million percent?
Some Americans say they will rebel when a black van pulls up to their house, the Gestapo breaks down the door, and sends them to the concentration camps, but then resistance will be too late.
Some Americans think the US will never collapse, but how many Germans in 1919 thought Germany would invade Poland in 20 years? How many Americans in 1846 would have thought the USA would have a Civil War in 15 years?
The US collapse is real and the time to prepare is now.
Are you just going to walk around and think everything is just fine?
Wake up.
Think.
Spread the word.
The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state now.
Slavery seems to be the natural state of mankind.
If you went to a net cafe in China 20 years ago you might think everybody would be furiously making websites and posting on forums about how to resist, but instead you would have seen everyone playing video games.
Now that the US is a police state, patriots have found out that Americans are cowards, too.
No one wants to be the among the first ones to go out into the street with pitchforks and torches or break a window.
One of the other options Patriots have today to resist tyranny is to just dropout, go Galt, go off the grid, opt-out, do not participate, and do not comply.
The government is not legitimate. The US is no longer a democracy. The government and illegal aliens don't obey the law, why should Americans?
Don't pay taxes.
Do not give your fingerprints or DNA to the government.
Do not get microchipped.
Do not get a driver license, business license, fishing license, or passport.
Don't use your name.
Do not pay taxes.
Do not call the police.
If the government says baseball hats are illegal, wear a baseball hat.
If the government says guns are illegal, buy a gun.
No one rules if no one obeys.
Americans think they are free now, but what rights do they have?
Twenty years patriots warned that tyranny would come to the USA and now it has.
Do you think that the record global debt bomb, media cries for war, and the police state are just a coincidence?
Do you think that only having 3 websites on the entire Internet that allow free speech is a little odd?
Do think TSA groping doesn't happen and NSA wiretapping doesn't exist?
The US Ponzi economy might continue for 2, 5, or 10 years, but what will Americans do when Social Security checks bounce in 15 years?
What will the government do when the debt is $40 trillion and the interest is larger than than government revenue?
What will you do when your ATM card doesn't work?
What will you do when the stock market falls 75%?
What will you do when inflation is 1 million percent?
Some Americans say they will rebel when a black van pulls up to their house, the Gestapo breaks down the door, and sends them to the concentration camps, but then resistance will be too late.
Some Americans think the US will never collapse, but how many Germans in 1919 thought Germany would invade Poland in 20 years? How many Americans in 1846 would have thought the USA would have a Civil War in 15 years?
The US collapse is real and the time to prepare is now.
Are you just going to walk around and think everything is just fine?
Wake up.
Think.
Spread the word.
When a man spends his own money to buy something for himself, he is very careful about how much he spends and how he spends it. When a man spends his own money to buy something for someone else, he is still very careful about how much he spends, but somewhat less what he spends it on. When a man spends someone else's money to buy something for himself, he is very careful about what he buys, but doesn't care at all how much he spends. And when a man spends someone else's money on someone else, he does't care how much he spends or what he spends it on. And that's government for you.