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@Goren @dcjogger

I think anarchists predate libertarians and are much more intellectual.

The USA is collapsing.

The US is in debt, is conducting multiple wars, is a police state, is flooded by illegal immigrants, and has become immoral.

Americans are either ignoring the decay or think that nothing can be done to stop the decline. Almost no one thinks the US can be saved.

No one appears to be worried about tyranny because liberals think the police state only applies to conservatives and conservatives think the police state only affects liberals.

The truth seems to be that the elites want to wipe out the strong white men and plan to send the weak liberals to the gulags where they will be starved and killed. The 1% will then divide the wealth and land of the US among themselves.

How else can you explain the destruction of the USA? Economics isn't rocket science. If you want a strong economy, don't punish hard work with taxes and regulations while rewarding laziness with welfare and allowing millions of 3rd world immigrants to flood the country.

americanthinker.com/articles/2

Americans seem to think that the elites won't open up concentration camps or shut down the Internet because the 1% will lose money, but what if the ruling class wants you dead so that can steal your money?

Those fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Sadly Americans won't realize what is happening until it is too late.

Never underestimate the inhumanity of man towards man. Greed has no bounds.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.

@dcjogger

The individual is losing his freedom all over the world due partly to technology, partly to social democratic governments.
@dcjogger

Governments rehearse these actions on pariah groups to see how they work.

The US government is now trying out fascist techniques on so called sex offenders.

Wow.

Americans scream tyranny is wonderful because the US has always been a police state, but what if the USA used to have freedom and lost it?

If Americans hate freedom then why did Americans fight the British?

If the US was always a police state then why did the founding fathers support free speech, protesting, religious freedom, gun rights, the right to silence, and property rights while opposing warrantless searches, civil forfeiture, torture, and extrajudicial assassinations?

Even if the US never had freedom, does that mean liberty is bad?

Did the USA have curfews, NSA wiretapping, checkpoints, forfeiture, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, torture, kill lists, no fly lists, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, redlight cameras, license plate readers, and Jade Helm in 1980?

Did Americans have gun bans, business licenses, Social Security numbers, sales, income, or property taxes in 1890?

Were drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, and prostitution illegal in 188

I have a few random questions about Libertarianism. @markrwatson @dcjogger

What's the difference between Libertarianism vs Anarchism?

Anarchists formed a nation, Anarchistan, which was then attacked by China. The people of Anarchistan couldn't agree how to mount a defense--or even whether to fight against China at all; and as a result, many Anarchists tried fighting back at half strength in small groups with unorganized resistance efforts. They were wiped out.

How can Libertarianstan mobilize an internally-coordinated, organized military response against China when they can see troops massing on the border?

How can Libertarianstan form a larger defense league with the nearby nations of Nationalistan, Federationstan, Confederationstan, Monarchistan, and Republicstan?

Wow.

Americans have gone stark-raving mad.

Nazis and Communists scream Libertarians care about trifling issues, but Libertarians aren't the ones who who want to regulate teakwood.

Americans say Nazism is the American way because Communism killed more people.

Americans scream Libertarians support forcing every American to have mandatory credit debt.

Americans swear remaining quiet is the answer to tyranny.

Americans say anyone opposed to TSA groping is an Anarchist.

Americans scream Libertarians are Commies.

Americans insist owning tigers must be illegal because tigers will go extinct, but people now own cats and dogs. Do pet owners have a vested interest in killing their own cats and dogs?

Americans are so retarded today that they say shoes are made by the government.

Americans scream Prohibition happened before the income tax was enacted in 1913.

Americans say US schools have always portrayed the USSR as a paradise.

Americans scream they want to live in a bankrupt warmongering police state because having a nuclear superpower would be safer than having 3000 small countries.

Americans swear freedom means government guaranteed jobs.

Americans insist that you are still moral when you cheat on your wife if you are not bisexual.

Americans say anyone who loves freedom is a homosexual.

Americans scream self-serve gas should be illegal to keep gas prices high.

Americans have become so batshit insane now that they insist anyone wearing a costume, badge, and a gun is a holy god, but do the Gestapo ever make mistakes?

Why should anyone care if you own guns, use prostitutes, go to church, or smoke?

Have Americans ever read a history book before?

Americans have become such pussified snowflakes now that they beg their beloved government overlords to protect them from scary illegal immigrants and guns.

The USA had open borders before, why not now? Do you really think that the US never had black people before today?

If banning guns will stop people from shooting others, will outlawing murder stop homicides?

The government regulates airlines, but do airplanes still crash?

Americans are simply unable to understand that decrees have unintended consequences.

China used to say all birds must be killed, but then insects multiplied and lead to starvation.

China used to say that the population must grow, but population growth lead to a one child policy. Now China doesn't have enough young people and the sex ratio is lopsided because boys outnumber girls.

Americans start wars and are then stunned that there are refugees, terrorism, tyranny, and debt.

The US bans business and then Americans are shocked when homelessness increases.

The US starts a trade war and then Americans are completely dumbfounded that no one buys US exports and prices soar.

Americans say coffee must be banned because it is dangerous, but what if an expert wrote a study saying coffee is safe?

Could there possibly be any other way to other way to help the environment besides arresting users of straws?

Americans scream seatbelts must be mandatory because accidents raise insurance costs, but if insurance rates are so important then why not ban skydiving, rope, swimming pools, and ladders, too?

Americans say that the government should tell you what color to paint your house because property values might decrease, but whose home is it? Do you realize that if the Gestapo can tell your neighbor to remove his garden, the Gestapo could tell you to get rid of your flag?

Do Americans who hate freedom feel like traitors?

@dcjogger
@louis

They achieved the theoretical 20,000 but it has been longer than 5 years since that "triggered the move" and they are still way behind. When I realized the FSP was just another political org (Gafke was paid shill) and the org libertarian mask was slipping off the authoritarian face, I lost interest. When so-called libertarians were jettisoning the NAP for weed and adding partisan political ID to the term, while carving out the NAP, I saw more clearly.

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