@cyberdystopia @RustyCrab @EdBoatConnoisseur @theorytoe @meso @errante @rootbsd keylogs your shit nothing personal, yk why? becuase wayland security is bs, the openbsd secure x is more secure you fucking dolt

@dcc @theorytoe @meso @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @errante @RustyCrab

OpenBSD Xorg has the same issue, even when you use nested servers (xephyr)

@curiousthinker @theorytoe @meso @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @errante @RustyCrab were talking about remote attakes so way less so, only if they have access from the local computer

@dcc @theorytoe @meso @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @errante @RustyCrab

Yes, a big misunderstanding is that most of X11's security woes are local attacks only. If some is planting keyloggers on your machine your already pwned, game over.

@curiousthinker @theorytoe @meso @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @errante @RustyCrab " BUT MY DISPLAY SERVER SHOULD BE SECURE MY NOT COMPUTER" also " NOOOOOOO I SHOULD NOT HAVE FREEDOM ON MY PC TO DO WHAT I WANT"

@dcc @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab X11 does not give you more freedom than Wayland

@meso @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab thats just wrong kek

@dcc @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab it's not

@meso @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @rootbsd @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab there is noting to argue here your wrong

@dcc @meso @EdBoatConnoisseur @RustyCrab @curiousthinker @cyberdystopia @errante @theorytoe

Wayshit users coping and seething rn

@rootbsd @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab at least we have good window managers and no graphical artifacts

@meso @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab

> graphical artifacts

I don't have those. Sounds like a skill issue 😏

@rootbsd @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab no sounds like an inherent problem with X11 being decades old software

@meso @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab

The Linux kernel is decades old software, who cares, being new is not a flex.

@rootbsd @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab Linux kernel is actively maintained and modernized to avoid bugs, X11 isn't

@meso @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab

Stop lying bro, X11 is actively maintained.

@rootbsd @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab it's not

@meso @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab

Looks active to me

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/log/

@rootbsd @theorytoe @EdBoatConnoisseur @cyberdystopia @dcc @curiousthinker @errante @RustyCrab hold on i got an idea cc @aceattorneybot