so that contact stance thread was wild... anyway, i wanted to start fresh and say a couple things:
1) the *feeling* of overwhelming evidence for the anti-c position is incredibly valid. that's because it's the dominant ideology of our culture. it's the water we're swimming in. all the adults in our lives (unless they were incredibly based) taught us sex is dangerous, or at least shameful, and that any adult who desired us sexually was a monster. and as to our own sexual desires? naughty, inconceivable, or sinful. despite the lack of real evidence, it makes sense that anti-c people would *feel* as if the whole world is on their side––because culturally it is.
2) while doing proper research and disseminating true information is hugely important, i've noticed we tend to argue about scientific studies the way religious folk argue over interpretations of scripture. of course the truth matters, but do we really want to cede the authority of truth-telling to the institutions who make money from our suffering?
3) our love itself is proof enough. our relationships are their own justification. what lover needs to lay out a spreadsheet that proves how they feel to their beloved? the language of love is all the ways we cannot keep count. it's timeless, shameless, immeasurable, irrational. people change when they love and are loved. and it changes people to see that love in action.
1) the *feeling* of overwhelming evidence for the anti-c position is incredibly valid. that's because it's the dominant ideology of our culture. it's the water we're swimming in. all the adults in our lives (unless they were incredibly based) taught us sex is dangerous, or at least shameful, and that any adult who desired us sexually was a monster. and as to our own sexual desires? naughty, inconceivable, or sinful. despite the lack of real evidence, it makes sense that anti-c people would *feel* as if the whole world is on their side––because culturally it is.
2) while doing proper research and disseminating true information is hugely important, i've noticed we tend to argue about scientific studies the way religious folk argue over interpretations of scripture. of course the truth matters, but do we really want to cede the authority of truth-telling to the institutions who make money from our suffering?
3) our love itself is proof enough. our relationships are their own justification. what lover needs to lay out a spreadsheet that proves how they feel to their beloved? the language of love is all the ways we cannot keep count. it's timeless, shameless, immeasurable, irrational. people change when they love and are loved. and it changes people to see that love in action.
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@hoakelenli This only makes sense to anyone that already agrees with you. If they think it's inherently harmful then it's not loving. You can't justify a reason someone should care about your love over a child's wellbeing either (especially when the MAP lot seem to mostly just lust after them).
This only worked with gays because it was top-down programming from Jewish media, which goes into your first point.
There's no actual rational reason people should tolerate either over the general wellbeing of society. This isn't convincing to anyone.
