@Jojothegoodperson @graf @arh @marian @p graf's starting shit, but if you want to defederate from here, go the fuck ahead
@Jojothegoodperson @arh @graf @marian @p ive done more against child sexual abuse than any of you larping keyboard warriors have.
@Jojothegoodperson @arh @graf @marian @p has it ever entered your brain that maybe i want to understand why people are paedophiles, and thus, that is why i give them a platform?
@TrevorGoodchild @Jojothegoodperson @arh @graf @marian @p yeah most "normal" people advocate for violence and forced ignorance against anyone they hate, acting entirely based upon their emotions. tell me something i dont know.
@Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @arh @graf @marian @p i do what i can to prevent harm, fuck you.
i'm one person. i have finite time on this earth. i am not going to play "needle in the haystack" just to virtue signal to everyone around me that i'm a good person. i do my part with the time i have.
i'm one person. i have finite time on this earth. i am not going to play "needle in the haystack" just to virtue signal to everyone around me that i'm a good person. i do my part with the time i have.
@wowaname @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @arh @graf @marian @p maybe helping pedophiles have a platform with people also dealing with these issues helps them commit fewer offenses because these problems dont just disappear when you sweep them under the rug
i would love to help pedos work through their shit, because i genuinely want to help people, but with them theres a point where its like "i have no idea what you are going through so i cannot relate" so im not the best person for that one
i would love to help pedos work through their shit, because i genuinely want to help people, but with them theres a point where its like "i have no idea what you are going through so i cannot relate" so im not the best person for that one
@rats @wowaname @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @arh @marian @p pedophiles have a platform. twitter is in multi-million dollar litigation against several minors for refusing to remove porn of them posted to their platform.
@graf @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @arh @marian @p @wowaname jesus thats fucking awful i hate generalized fora run by corporations
@rats @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @arh @marian @p @wowaname maybe you should educate opal that he doesn't need child porn for ''''''''''research'''''''''''' instead of replying 'oh ah man thats so awful gosh'
@wowaname @TrevorGoodchild @graf @p @rats
Oh, I would probably say no thanks, you habe too much child porn on your hard drive fuck you.
Oh, I would probably say no thanks, you habe too much child porn on your hard drive fuck you.
@wowaname @TrevorGoodchild @graf @p @rats
Why are you only responding to me? Because of the fact that I am under aged? Bye bye pedo
Why are you only responding to me? Because of the fact that I am under aged? Bye bye pedo
@Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @graf @p @rats i never asked you to interact with me you colossal faggot.
@Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @graf @p @rats i have half the people in this thread blocked.
if you bore me enough, i'll block you too.
if you bore me enough, i'll block you too.
@wowaname @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats hey @eris@discordia.space here's a trans person telling another user to kill themselves, wanna stop your bullshit campaign against my users or is it only a rule for non trans people?
@graf @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats i already received a report from eris for "harassment" coming from this instance
@wowaname @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats nobody cares about your reports pedophile, maybe when you remove child porn without posting about it and including the fucking file hash in your post I'll take you seriously
@graf @wowaname @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats
I'm a bit confused, is opal allowing pedos to post CSAM? Because if it just about letting pedos join, what's to happen to any instance that holds free speech values. Are we just going to ignore our values because we hate pedos just talking about their sick shit?
I'm a bit confused, is opal allowing pedos to post CSAM? Because if it just about letting pedos join, what's to happen to any instance that holds free speech values. Are we just going to ignore our values because we hate pedos just talking about their sick shit?
@coin @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats @wowaname opal is allowing pedophiles to join his instance under the guise of 'research' and claiming he booted someone off his instance because someone reported CSE content in a dm (not something you can report in a DM in pleroma, you can report a user but not content) and then posting both of their tags and the MD5 of the file. posting their tags is illegal if you are reporting it and posting the MD5 to child pornography is illegal in hundreds of countries. im not sure this is the hill you want to die on man
@graf @coin @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats @wowaname
posting the MD5 to child pornography is illegal in hundreds of countries
nigga what
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@pomstan@срёт.онлайн @coin @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats @wowaname @graf @Jojothegoodperson No, they aren't. Obviously. That's fucking retarded. There are public md5 hash databases
https://www.iwf.org.uk/our-services/hash-list
>We provide both PhotoDNA and MD5 versions of the hashes.
@applejack @coin @TrevorGoodchild @p @wowaname @graf @Jojothegoodperson yeah microsoft runs one, i don't understand this argument at all: https://www.thorn.org/blog/hashing-detect-child-sex-abuse-imagery/
@applejack @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @coin @graf @p @wowaname like to be clear im interested in this point because i would fucking love to see csam stopped and afaik this is a really good method for that. no argument is being presented against it, idk what the problem is unless you think you can reverse the file from md5 hashes or something
the google method suggested isn't tenable because i am like 99.9999999% sure would also be using blacklists to prevent indexing it
the google method suggested isn't tenable because i am like 99.9999999% sure would also be using blacklists to prevent indexing it
@rats @TrevorGoodchild @wowaname @coin @p @graf @Jojothegoodperson I really doubt there is a bunch of CP with their md5 as keywords on jewgle clearnet anyway
@applejack @TrevorGoodchild @wowaname @coin @p @graf @Jojothegoodperson i dont know offhand but doing reverse image search via md5 at least sounds plausible with some tools so i was accepting it, but even assuming this is the case it doesn't make sense to me. google would be doing /something/ to prevent this obvious liability
@applejack @coin @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats @wowaname @graf @Jojothegoodperson Isn't this completely circumvented by changing one pixel, or even metadata that doesn't actually affect the image/video?
@miria @applejack @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @coin @p @rats @wowaname thank you for your insight other pedophile
@graf @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @coin @p @rats @wowaname You're welcome retard.
@miria @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @coin @p @rats @wowaname cuming in a woman for the purpose of creating you and opal was a mistake, please pray I don't make the same mistake
@graf @miria @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @coin @p @wowaname i mean i know that because i understand what a hash is and flaws in hashing algorithms. it seems like a good point to bring up if you actually want to try developing a tool to prevent the distribution of csam
what's your point
what's your point
@miria @applejack @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @coin @graf @p @wowaname yes
you can also generate false positives because it is easy to make hash collisions with md5 (you might also need the original image for that? i can't remember)
it still feels like something is better than nothing, or at least it i still don't see how distributing the hash to help block it is negative
you can also generate false positives because it is easy to make hash collisions with md5 (you might also need the original image for that? i can't remember)
it still feels like something is better than nothing, or at least it i still don't see how distributing the hash to help block it is negative
@rats @miria @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @coin @graf @p i distributed the sha256 hash, the one pleroma uses for filenames, so that other instances could delete that file off their servers if for whatever reason it was also posted there, or if they were one of the servers that received the image from here
it isnt rocket science, people here are just mentally disabled as all hell
it isnt rocket science, people here are just mentally disabled as all hell
@rats @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @coin @graf @miria @p distributing a fucking filename of all things is perfectly legal unless you are out of touch with reality
@wowaname @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @coin @graf @miria @p oh i didn't realize it was literally just a filename lol wtf
@wowaname @rats @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @coin @miria @p "people who critize my actions with knowledge are mentally ill"
@graf @wowaname @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @applejack @miria @p @rats
Don't know about this, man, seems like an overreaction and the hash doesn't seem like it would be illegal to possess if it's used by organization (other than police) to watch out against such material.
Don't know about this, man, seems like an overreaction and the hash doesn't seem like it would be illegal to possess if it's used by organization (other than police) to watch out against such material.
@graf @rats @wowaname @coin @Jojothegoodperson @p @TrevorGoodchild @miria You literally just don't know what you're talking about but are trying to start shit anyway
@miria @p @TrevorGoodchild @coin @rats @graf @wowaname @Jojothegoodperson Or changing the metadata, or appending a useless byte at the end, or anything, yes, which is why they also have image specific hashes like PhotoDNA, and presumably something similar for videos (or just go by frame)
@applejack @coin @TrevorGoodchild @p @rats @wowaname @graf @Jojothegoodperson I wish perceptual hashing tech would advance further so shit like this could be way more effective but eh
@KFC @applejack @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @coin @graf @p @rats personally, im more into assisting with identification of any victims. of course i don't like dissemination of non-consensual imagery in general for privacy reasons, so i appreciate the efforts with regard to visual hashing, but the fact is that it isn't the most effective mechanism to seek justice for victims
i even saw an article a while ago that text-based conversations are the real concern because it's more useful for identifying victims than CSAM
i even saw an article a while ago that text-based conversations are the real concern because it's more useful for identifying victims than CSAM
@KFC @rats @wowaname @coin @Jojothegoodperson @TrevorGoodchild @p @graf Image hashing isn't complicated at all. Microsoft's "super advanced PhotoDNA(TM)!!!" is implemented by me in 27 lines of D code (not kidding). If you want to get into funky AIs or something, you create the bigger problem of there being so many more potential false positives than false negatives
