@FutaFanatic @tsumi @mushroomfemboy The tl;dr is that remedy thinks that police have no rights to take you away without consent. DAnger to self or others? Commit crime? Apparently he says its within his rights to turn down the cop and they legally must leave him alone.
I pointed out that its delusional and not how the world works. Then he went on a huge lecture about how consent matters. I explained that consent is for sex, and not something that applies to everything, for instance he doesn't need consent to respond to me.
Then I pointed out how it's funny that he cares so much about consent except when it comes to rape because he is pro rape.

@Kit @FutaFanatic @tsumi > "Apparently he says its within his rights to turn down the cop and they legally must leave him alone."

I literally never said that. strawman much?

@mushroomfemboy @FutaFanatic @tsumi You did though, people can feel free to check the main thread.

@Kit @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy literally what are you talking about?

@tsumi @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy The thread is much longer than that and breanches out in many places

@Kit @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy this is literally the only thing right in front of it. stop trying to backtrack now and just take accountability for having mentioned police and legality first.

@tsumi @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy I already answered this. I said, oops that was citrine who said that I thought remedy said that. I posted the pics if you want to check my profile I have them boosted.

@Kit @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy your very first reply to prey is arguing for the police intervention in cases of suicide? you were the very first person to bring police interference up out of whatever reason

@tsumi @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy Because that's what prey was talking about??????

@Kit @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy prey literally contextualized the statist intervention to be immoral you absolute retard.

@tsumi @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy which is bringing it up yes?

@Kit @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy

> ah yes, if im suicidal and on the verge of cutting, you should definitely send police to my house to touch me without my consent and make me feel violated and imprison me in a hospital, yes, thats the perfect thing to do to someone whos struggling
~Prey
actual kidnapping tbh, but ofc it doesnt count since the state says its okay. i hate this world
~Prey

let's dissect this and get a main takeaway from it:

prey is clearly in disapproval of the intervention through third parties due to how they're actually just causing more damage.

your reply to this was:

"i don’t know the situation but police and hospital staff can ensure that you don’t kill yourself and can provide medication if needed. They can then keep you there until there’s no risk of you attempting suicide. I agree that it’s probably not pleasant but for someone who cares about you they’d want to prevent you dying."

which is completely ignoring preys main takeaway by using a circular argument to reestablish the very system that was subject of criticism in preys statement. you didn't add anything to this discussion outside of "killing yourself bad so state can interfere" when the context of the thread was "interference bad actually because bodily autonomy > your authority to force me to do anything"

@tsumi @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy I'm not sure I follow you. Prey said she doesn't want police to imprison her in a hospital. I explained that having prey die is worse so friends who care about prey would do what is neccesary to protect prey, even if it's from herself.

@Kit @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy

prey is against the infringement of her autonomy through any authority.

you argued that it's better for this authority since she gets to live missing the premise of preys main takeaway that it's more harmful for her to be taken away.

@tsumi @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy and I argue that it's not. If you kill yourself you are dead, and if you are taken away it can be harmful but you are not dead.

@Kit @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy which is literally not the concern of the thread how do you not get that yet?

here for retards:

when authority take me away I go ouchie more. sucks :(

but you stay alive due to police!

how is this related? the point is that prey suffers more damage and harm from being taken away by force than if she a) killed herself and b) sat through it by herself. did you ever consider that maybe we could introduce more options to this context that would make it c) better for prey whilst acknowledging her autonomy?

@tsumi @FutaFanatic @mushroomfemboy Killing yourself is the worst outcome.

@Kit @tsumi @FutaFanatic not if I want to be dead

@mushroomfemboy @FutaFanatic @tsumi No dead :C

@Kit @FutaFanatic @tsumi my body, my choice

@mushroomfemboy @FutaFanatic @tsumi Are you chosing to dead?

@Kit @FutaFanatic @tsumi if I was, I certainly wouldn't be comfortable telling a cop apologist like you

@mushroomfemboy @FutaFanatic @tsumi Not sure how im a cop apologize but okay.

@mushroomfemboy @FutaFanatic @tsumi https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cop%20apologist
They prevented u from ending ur life, oh what horrible police they are caring about someone.