The communists lose the argument because they have also not known history or what Marx wrote and think "communism is when personal rights" when it is about class struggle and no, communist countries weren't perfect (shocker)

@Spaghettimon communists sure do a lotta blibber blabber about it BEING perfect though

@Spaghettimon specially stalin

@prouddegenerate Tankies are retarded, if Stalin had continued Lenin's policies the USSR would still exist and be a much better place than it was post-stalin

@Spaghettimon in ur communist utopia what do you see yourself working

@Spaghettimon I'd have already killed myself

@prouddegenerate Why?

@Spaghettimon communism.

@prouddegenerate And why is that a reason?
For what I know, it's in the capitalist countries where the suicide rate is going up

@Spaghettimon it is in my nigger-americam blood to despise communism

@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate and thats also just not being retarded tbh

@Mysha @prouddegenerate "not be retarded" says the person living in the country that bankrupts people over their right to live

@Spaghettimon @Mysha french difficulty

@prouddegenerate @Mysha Oh, and the place where people also go bankrupt over studying

@prouddegenerate @Spaghettimon Definitely no, federal grants aswell as community college exist

@Mysha @prouddegenerate Community college is not at all respected, and you know. Brazilian public universities have more reputation, and we are a poorer, less developed country that the only difference is that the Workers Party was in control for 13 years

@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate the day that any communist party gets control of the us, is the day the entire world blows the fuck up

@Mysha @prouddegenerate

@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate starting with brazil

@Mysha @prouddegenerate I am regularizing myself to join our Communist Party

@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate american leftists want your country blown off of the face of the earth

@Mysha @prouddegenerate If you say Democrats are leftists you don't know what leftism is

@Spaghettimon @Mysha @prouddegenerate They are and so are the Reps. They're equally in love with sodomy and niggers, that's what defines leftism

Doesn't change anything if one gets payed by Adelson and the other by Bloomberg, it's kike finklethink regardless

@applejack @Mysha @prouddegenerate Do you know what communism is?

@Spaghettimon @Mysha @prouddegenerate As an ideology it's a hyper complicated and mystified, just completely made up, framework of ying yang style forces (dialectics) that you then shove things into

It's that kike trait of mystifying and pilpuling reality into rabbinical batshit so you can say anything is anything by layers and layers of abstraction

It sometimes is even literally mystical, with weird (and completely wrong) theories about human evolution, matter and consciousness, and a fuckton of other shit

As an end goal it's a society where everyone is equal (somehow), nobody is forced to do anything (somehow), there is no hierarchy and it doesn't develop (somehow), everyone shares equally (for some reason), and crime doesn't exist because in the dual ying yang shenanigans communists actually think crime only exists from friction with class conflict

@applejack @Mysha @prouddegenerate

>As an ideology it's a hyper complicated and mystified

LMAO

@Spaghettimon @Mysha @prouddegenerate I like when communists literally just admit they only care about the nice happy end goals without even bothering with their own theory

@Spaghettimon @Mysha @prouddegenerate

Fucking "the world spirit"

https://www.britannica.com/topic/dialectical-materialism
>Marx’s and Engels’ conception of dialectics owes much to the German idealist philosopher G.W.F. Hegel. In opposition to the “metaphysical” mode of thought, which viewed things in abstraction, each by itself and as though endowed with fixed properties, Hegelian dialectics considers things in their movements and changes, interrelations and interactions. Everything is in continual process of becoming and ceasing to be, in which nothing is permanent but everything changes and is eventually superseded. All things contain contradictory sides or aspects, whose tension or conflict is the driving force of change and eventually transforms or dissolves them. But whereas Hegel saw change and development as the expression of the world spirit, or Idea, realizing itself in nature and in human society, for Marx and Engels change was inherent in the nature of the material world. They therefore held that one could not, as Hegel tried, deduce the actual course of events from any “principles of dialectics”; the principles must be inferred from the events.

@applejack @Mysha @prouddegenerate From the same article that you share, a tl;dr: "They adopted a thoroughgoing materialist approach, holding that any attempt to combine or reconcile materialism with idealism must result in confusion and inconsistency"

This is, "utopianism bad"

So much for the "hypercomplex and mistified"

@Spaghettimon @Mysha @prouddegenerate Nigger, that's the intro blurb and it even has a hyperlink to tell you what idealism means, it's not utopian, it's the idea that reality only exists in the mind as opposed to materialism