The communists lose the argument because they have also not known history or what Marx wrote and think "communism is when personal rights" when it is about class struggle and no, communist countries weren't perfect (shocker)
@Spaghettimon communists sure do a lotta blibber blabber about it BEING perfect though
@prouddegenerate Tankies are retarded, if Stalin had continued Lenin's policies the USSR would still exist and be a much better place than it was post-stalin
@prouddegenerate And why is that a reason?
For what I know, it's in the capitalist countries where the suicide rate is going up :sip:
@Mysha @prouddegenerate "not be retarded" says the person living in the country that bankrupts people over their right to live
@prouddegenerate @Spaghettimon Definitely no, federal grants aswell as community college exist
@Mysha @prouddegenerate Community college is not at all respected, and you know. Brazilian public universities have more reputation, and we are a poorer, less developed country that the only difference is that the Workers Party was in control for 13 years
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate the day that any communist party gets control of the us, is the day the entire world blows the fuck up
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate american leftists want your country blown off of the face of the earth
@Mysha @prouddegenerate They also aren't. They support "good companies". There are no good companies
@Mysha @prouddegenerate Anarchism isn't by definition left, it's centerlib
Leftism is socialism and communism. The democrats are neither. Y'all have both a Socialist and a Communist, and a few other left parties, but the huge majority of the US are cappie-fans who disagree in how progressive the capitalism has to be
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate "the huge majority of the US"

lmao no the majority of the us is centerists who dont give a shit or patriots who also dont give a shit
@Mysha @prouddegenerate They do give a shit, everybody has opinions. If they didn't give a shit, they wouldn't vote
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate You do realized it is a requirement to vote or else you can get fined right?
@Mysha @prouddegenerate And what's the fine?
Like, here it also is, and the fine is, in US$, 25¢
@Mysha @prouddegenerate Tfw the most capitalist country can bankrupt poor people that refuse to follow the system
@Mysha @Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate
>You do realized it is a requirement to vote or else you can get fined right?
>It is not a complete requirement
It's not a requirement at all. The fuck are you smoking? Are the 33.8% of people who didn't vote last election being fined and/or imprisoned?
@miria @prouddegenerate @Spaghettimon This is what i was told, you sign up to vote and you do not turn out it is a 5,000 dollar fine, i trust the words of people who have actually voted before and who are old enough to do it then you, im sorry if thats offensive

@Mysha @Spaghettimon @miria @prouddegenerate If you sign up for it, don't, and then get fined, it's shitty, but if that's it, framing it as "you are required to vote" is retarded

@applejack @Spaghettimon @miria @prouddegenerate im confused are you saying that if you dont sign up for it and get fined its shitty or that if you do sign up for it and dont vote and get fined its shitty?
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