@miria A marriage is a contract. Should you not enforce contracts?
@miria >agree to get married
>can't be a whore no more
>WHERE IS MY FREEDOM??
???
@miria @tsumi Any interaction that isn't based on some kind of altruism like family and friends is based on some tangible threat of violence
And even a lot of altruism has roots in tangible threats of violence. Mutualism, including contracts, evolved because violence is more costly than just being nice if the other party can dish it back
If you stop being violent, it becomes an unstable strategy and the people that are willing to use violence win
@tsumi @miria Compared to non-market anarchists that just want nothing done and magically it works out
>crime just wont happen
>we'll just be nice and share
>we'll have no hierarchy but enforce the majority wants somehow
>power rules don't exist and you can't use a power asymmetry to gain more power, so this is stable
This is the peak of communist ideology (the most delusional pipe-dream imaginable)
@miria So is self-defence. But here it's literally agreed to
>wdym I'm not allowed to put my fist in the place where your face is?
@miria Idk what your point is then
@miria And? Even the guy you're replying to is going to get how this works, so I don't get what's the point
Autonomy can be mutually exclusive. If I can't punch you in the face, I'm restricted, and if I can punch you in the face, you're restricted
If you want to go autistic and say violence against you isn't restrictive, rephrase is so it's about being forced into a cage or something
@miria Actually, we can even extend this farther. If I do not give you a hammer, your autonomy to hammer in nails is restricted
Gravity is restricting your autonomy to fly
You can go pretty retarded with this
@miria I'm pretty sure he agrees that protecting autonomy sometimes means limiting it, like self defence
@miria Do you raise a child's autonomy by allowing it to drink bleach? I feel like dying makes you less autonomous