@miria A marriage is a contract. Should you not enforce contracts?

@miria I don't think anyone is counting shotgun weddings

@miria >agree to get married
>can't be a whore no more
>WHERE IS MY FREEDOM??

???

@applejack That's literally a restriction of autonomy, whether you think it's justified or not

@miria So is self-defence. But here it's literally agreed to

>wdym I'm not allowed to put my fist in the place where your face is?

@miria And? Even the guy you're replying to is going to get how this works, so I don't get what's the point

Autonomy can be mutually exclusive. If I can't punch you in the face, I'm restricted, and if I can punch you in the face, you're restricted

If you want to go autistic and say violence against you isn't restrictive, rephrase is so it's about being forced into a cage or something

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@miria Actually, we can even extend this farther. If I do not give you a hammer, your autonomy to hammer in nails is restricted

Gravity is restricting your autonomy to fly

You can go pretty retarded with this

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@applejack You go argue about it with the other guy since I don't value autonomy over everything like this

@miria I'm pretty sure he agrees that protecting autonomy sometimes means limiting it, like self defence

@applejack Protecting an individual person's autonomy never means limiting it

@miria Do you raise a child's autonomy by allowing it to drink bleach? I feel like dying makes you less autonomous

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