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I think I might have bigotry of low expectations when it comes to Canadians.

@professionalbigot69 Ching chong, ding dong, that's an offensive thing to say, you damn cracker.

This was hilarious. A leftie breadtuber used A LOT of Gamergate research to bash on Brianna Wu, and talk about how she's a bad person and whatnot, just because Wu turned her rhetoric ever so slightly away from full blown woke insanity.

They validate EVERYTHING Gamergate found on her, while still claiming GG was a harassment campaign. Gamergate discovered she was a fraud a full decade before you got your panties in a knot, but somehow when they did it, it was wrong...

It's a 2 hour long shit show, I didn't watch it till the end either, but it's hilarious to see the mental dissonance. "Gamergate was bad, but this thing they found on her, and this Breitbart article, I've realized that they were true".

youtube.com/watch?v=c1O6S7MWXb

@BasedLunatic
> I don’t know what causes this distortion of face in the camera on phones
Post-processing. Processing, processing and more processing. You can't do most of it with video, because the CPU can't do it fast enough for 30-60 frames per second. But for a single photo? It's gonna have a second of spare time until it needs to write in on disk. More than enough to make you look thinner, your skin look smoother, etc., so it can enable your vanity, make you post on Instagram, and because you get likes for your nice looking ultraprocessed photos, it triggers your lizard brain to associate photos taken with Samsung, Apple, Huawei, etc. to attention, happiness, pleasure. So next time you change your phone, you'll buy Samsung, Apple, Huawei again, because you remember just how good your pictures with that phone were, because you did got so many Instagram likes.

@SuperDicq
>AMD A6
>That will in fact be able to decode mp3 files
I mean... technically yeah, but just barely.

@BasedLunatic
Just to be clear, I hate both of these. I hate that we've normalized faking photos. I already hated the over-processed approach Apple always took with their cameras, as a means to compensate for lower megapixel count, but the more recent filtering and AI stuff... it is Satanic in my eyes. I'd rather take photos with the most potato budget phone on the market than with either of these.

@nimrod I honestly didn't think it was possible to make AOC more unappealing to me. Good job.

@djsumdog
>Tepe is a full on site with carvings/drawings and structures that point at a specific star
I might have been thinking of something else then. I'm just familiar with the name in passing, but history was never my thing. Probably associated the name with something else by mistake.

>that it was multiple comet impacts
If you have something comet sized that hits in an ocean, you'd get a flood, and maybe you can escape rock material being ejected and all that. If it were to hit on land, ice or no ice, not only would it form a massive crater (and even in the ocean it's likely gonna form a crater, the Chicxulub crater is underwater), but it would be a fireball mass extinction event, with little chance for something over the size of rodents to survive. Chicxulub was just an asteroid, and it was enough to put the final nail in the coffin for dinosaurs (the current understanding these days is that dinosaur population was actually already in decline by that time, the asteroid just speed things up). A comet would be far worse. Multiple comets... My point is, I don't think humanity would have survived something like that. A comet wouldn't just destroy a civilization, it would reset life completely.

This is why I mention floods in general, because flooding does occur all the time, and it can occur for all sorts of reasons. You don't need exotic events like comets. I remember watching a video on some ancient flood triggered from a land slide or something like that. A "simple" flood, while less fancy, could still locally eradicate a civilization, so it's something that remains plausible. A comet impacting Earth in the last few hundred thousands years, is not really plausible.
(I was looking for something else, and found this, relating to the Younger Dryas period youtube.com/watch?v=1uEvL9cbze )

>You might be confusing Tepe with Richat
No, I think I'm confusing it with Gunung Padang. (relevant info:
youtube.com/watch?v=zU-wQVAqQn
youtube.com/watch?v=OZGp6N3AHT
)

>We look at our layers of pavement and concrete and massive steel super structures and it seems like evidence of the remains should be here 50,000 or 100,000 years from now.
Some of it might erode even faster, but I don't think that would be the most categorical thing that would date our civilization.

>At least some of it should be a sediment layer a million years from now too, but it would all likely be gone at 1 billion years
Yup, what you'd want to look for are the sediment layers. And once material gets deposited in a sediment layer, it will stay there. Even for a billion years. But asphalt and concrete might not be as noticeable in between all the other rocks. And steel will eventually rust away, so you'll just have the sediment more rich in iron oxide. But that wouldn't necessarily be indicative of a civilization.

Some of the things you'd want to look for in the sediment layers to discover humanity is microplastics and artificially created nuclear isotopes. Actually, I remember hearing somewhere that they looked in the sediment of some lake or reservoir or something, that hadn't been disturbed by humans for a long time, and they discovered that we, as in humanity, had already left a clear mark of our existence in the sediment. And I think it was mostly about nuclear isotopes that don't exist naturally. Lead is gonna be another strong sign, cause asteroid don't deposit lead when they strike. So an uniform distribution of lead in the geological record could only have been caused by us.

>We still have no idea how the Egyptian pyramids were built in that time
No, we pretty much know. The thing is, everyone who insists "we don't know" think about the problem in short time spans, they think the pyramids should have been done in 3-5 years, like a modern skyscraper gets built. But Egyptians spent decades for even small pyramids. Cutting the blocks was done with sand abrasion, moving them was probably done with the help of rollers beneath the blocks (or maybe this livescience.com/45285-how-egyp), and for lifting them into place they would have used sloped ramps. Sure, it might take multiple days to cut, move and place a single block in the pyramid. But Egyptians had plenty of time, and slavery ensured they had man power too.

>The more I look at history, the more it's such a limited black box we pull out ideas from
Oh, I'm sure there's plenty we don't know. Even for something like the Roman Empire, that was likely one of the better documented old civilizations, I bet we don't have a clue about the majority of their politicians and local leaders. But we do know that the Roman Empire existed. By this point, it's really hard for something of a big scale to have eluded us noticing. We're at the point of refining details.

Coming back to the dinosaurs as an example, we know they existed, we know they died, we know they died after an asteroid strike, now we're refining how much the asteroid is responsible, and how much is it other changes in climate that had been taking place for other geological reasons.

@ceekay You just reacted to tech tone's reaction to a reaction of a reaction of a reaction of a reaction.

@sendpaws
KDE has the same thing. Even worse in a way, cause if I enable suspend-then-hibernate via KDE, it does work when the timers run out. After say 5 minutes the system goes to sleep, and after an hour it hibernates. BUT if I make the mistake of putting the system to sleep via the start menu option, it NEVER hibernates, even if you expect if to.
As far as the user is concerned, sleep is sleep, and I did tell it to hibernate after sleep... But no. Turns out the start menu option remains tied to systemd suspend.

@djsumdog In the last few years I keep hearing of archeologist discoveries that push back when various species of humans started, or when they left Africa, so it would not be impossible to cram in somewhere a new undiscovered civilization. The difficulty is, where are the artifacts left by the civilization? Clay figures, pots, writing in clay tablets, various tools, these are the traditional signs of civilization.

Even with massive floods, at some point you'll find something scattered somewhere because archeologists and geologists have been able to identify when and where flooding took place. So if you assume a flood wiped across a valley, you'll just go downstream, where the water would have settled everything it carried, and start digging for signs of the wiped civilization.

We could of course also be dealing with tribes that for one reason or another have their "technology" based mostly around biodegradable material. Less usage of stone, mud, clay, and more wood and plant matter, that would decompose and leave nothing to find for archeologists. They could still have had language, stories with basic philosophical concepts behind them, but expressed orally. You could have had civilizations that were intellectually advanced, but at the same time, you wouldn't be able to find evidence for it. At which point it would be like believing in Santa, with no evidence.

I've heard of Göbekli Tepe only in passing, and I just know that there's some fringe ideas about it being something, with little evidence to prove it. A geographical feature that looks as if it could be man made, but no human artifacts discovered.
I don't think I've heard of the Richat Structure.

I'm open to the idea, but ultimately it's important that we find conclusive evidence of human settlement. Even with cave men we've been able to find wall art and ash remains of fires lit by humans.

@cowanon
No. Mars' first colony won't be communist. If you want to know what the first space colonies will look like, you should look at what American colonies were like.

Conservative values, protestant values, traditional values, family values, meritocracy, free exchange. These are gonna be the words I expect will describe the first Mars colony.

@djsumdog
Here's an interesting though: what counts as an extinct civilization here? Would all humans have to die to call our civilization extinct? Or would we be deemed an extinct civilization even if we merely forever lost access to advanced technology, the thing that would give civilization status at the galactic scale? (imagine we simply run out of the resources needed to build that technology, and we're unable to find alternatives).

Cause I'm starting to think that the latter could be a reasonable possibility when it comes to alien life. Was watching a report earlier that it was predicted that we could run out of helium by the end of the century. Why is that important? Because it's used extensively during chip making these days (among other high tech uses). How fast would our civilization collapse if we suddenly were never able to make CPUs at least as powerful as current Ryzen or Threadripper?
There are countless rare elements our technology depends on, and running out of even a single one could radically change society. For the most of them, you at least can argue you'd spend whatever energy needed to recycle them. But for helium... when that escapes into the atmosphere, it's gone.

So imagine the galaxy, filled with 10,000 worlds, where civilizations maybe even more advanced then us existed, but they still couldn't travel between solar systems, they couldn't gather up the resources of other worlds, and once they ran out of critical resources on their world, they slowly reverted back to a feudal society. They could be even more, 100,000, 1 million, 100 million, and we'd never know, because their small window of technological prowess, of being able to communicate via powerful radio signals, has already passed long ago, before we discovered steam engines even.

How tragic would that be? A galaxy filled with beings as smart as us, but without the resources to actually put their intelligence to use.

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