@endlessmike
Doesn't matter. I haven't seen any of those shows.
@TheMadPirate @rasterman
Don't know.
@endlessmike
Don't know which one is Suzanne, but she's definitely lying.
@TheMadPirate @rasterman
South Korea is heavy on feminism. This has been known for a while.
@mametsuko
It's not gay... but it is the most degenerate sexual act I'm aware of.
@crunklord420
My autism would literally prevent me from doing this.
@Jain Is it over 8999?
@TheMadPirate
I try to avoid the phrase "subvert expectations", but yes.
The expectation for a shooter like Bioshock is usually to have the illusion of choice, since shooters aren't the best mediums to implement actual choice. That works better in an open world RPG. And the illusion of choice could have easily been achieved since so many people would easily changed their mind on killing Ryan once they found out they were tricked. Even if they changed the cutscene of you killing Ryan, with a cutscene of you doing a deal with him, it would have been much closer to what most players would have wanted in that moment and maintain the illusion of choice.
@TheAncestor
>Europe is the ancestral homeland of the Awoo!
Doubt. There is no "awoo" in Europe.
>You Monkey!
I'll have you know I'm a Byakugan Princess! I will not accept such insult!
Go back to Africawoo, you mongrel.
@TheAncestor
Go back to Africawoo!
@TheAncestor
Shut up you awoogger!
@TheAncestor
awooggers
@TheMadPirate
I'm pretty sure realizing that you've been mind controlled would piss anyone off, whether or not they supported Andrew Ryan.
If anything, I was more open to considering his ideology after I realized I've been tricked and lied to about him. My mindset was "fuck, did I actually kill the good guy?".
The way I see it, the game is self aware in that the player doesn't actually have a choice. Instead of trying to trick the player into thinking he's making decisions, like most video games do, it's embracing that it's not real life, it's just a game, there are no real choices you can do, and you're just going down a roller coaster ride.
The Andrew Ryan scene is the pivotal point of the game, if it gave you control at that point, it would only have ruined this crucial message. The only path the game could have taken is the same one of hunting down Fontaine, only you'd have had another voice talking to you over the radio. There would have been no meaningful difference between killing Ryan or sparring him. So instead of doing another illusion of choice, it's embracing that there is no choice. Your character doesn't kill Ryan because he disagrees with his ideology, or because he wants to escape Rapture, he kills him simply because he was controlled the entire time.
I don't think the game is about ideologies. The second it reveals you had no choice, it tosses all of that out.
@TheMadPirate
But you didn't say all of this in that post. You said "lies, damned lies, and statistics". And when people say that phrase, by statistics they usually just mean "lies by cherry picking". So to a passer by, it just looks like you're calling people liars, without explaining yourself.
My point is, either you're not screenshoting your entire part of the conversation, in which case you're not doing yourself any favor over here; or you're not explaining yourself, as well as you clearly could, over there, in which case I can't blame the people that are attacking your or banning you.
Yeah, of course the statistic and everything that guy says is bullshit. You know it, I know it. But that doesn't mean it's self-evident for everyone else, and it doesn't mean you can just say "lies, damned lies, and statistics" and expect people to understand the research that came out with the statistic is faulty.
なんで君はこれを読んでいるかよ
Just another random person passing by.
Oh hi.
The Alyx Vance must go this way anyway.
Gordon Freeman dies in All Dogs Go To Heaven 2.
I wasn't designed to be carried.
En Taro Igel!
Lift me up, let me go...