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@book @Xenophon @hrast
>Is this not true of math
That's technically a philosophical question that far exceeds my abilities unfortunately. As far as I can tell, math is universal, a property of the universe we live in that can only be discovered not invented.

@book @Lover @Xenophon @hrast
Well, I'm not entirely sure which religion everyone here follows, so I can never be sure if we're talking about the same thing. I will use "Christian god" to make it clear this is where I'm coming from, and for people to be able to say "well, I follow something else". At which point, people will go on separate ways.

@Xenophon @hrast @book
Comparing "god's word" to mathematics is a bit much for me. I'm noping out.
Your "god's word" is already tainted from the start by being written, edited and translated by humans. Any objectivity that "god's word" might have had, has been long gone and lost.

@Lover @Xenophon @hrast @book
I thought it a serious accusation so I treated it seriously. Should I have said "lol no" instead? Cause I can do that to. Lol no.

@Xenophon @hrast @book
So you're ok with people here over-analyzing my words, and coming to conclusions about what I feel/think, but priests analyzing the scriptures for close to two thousands years, to better understand the god they believe in, and coming to conclusions of their own, is too much for you.

Ok then. Pride is not a sin. I rescind any such allegations.

@Lover @Xenophon @hrast @book
>the kind of pride you're you're
Uhmm... I think I understand what you were trying to say there.
Thing is, I don't take particular pride in my disbelief in god. I take as much pride in that as I do in the shape of my toes.

>think they are smarter or better than god
From my perspective god is a fictional character, so it's kinda hard to take pride in that. I'm definitely more handsome than Peter Griffin or Homer Simpson, but that doesn't really mean much, you know what I mean? I'm not able to see it as an accomplishment.

As for whether I view myself as smarter or better than the Christian god... hhmm... Well, god would have to be the smartest being in existence, as he is supposedly perfect. I personally never had any qualms with his supposed intelligence, and I can't think of anything in particular egregious enough to prove he's less intelligent than your average human, so god can have the title of being smarter than me (although if god could have a say in this, I suspect he'd be insulted of being compared to such low of a bar).

As for "better", that's a complicated matter, cause "better" is a subjective term. Better at what? He'd surely be better at sports. He'd out-lift, out-run and just generally excel at any physical task, far above any human, as a consequence of being defined as an omnipotent being. So without a doubt, god would be better at me at more things than I could count. The only thing where there would be some contention is on matters of morality. But this is where we find ourselves at a massive impasse, because this necessitates defining morality and a butt load of philosophy questions that need solving. The question of whether god is more moral than me or not is ultimately depended on how you define morality. And if you define morality as "abiding by god's word, no matter what he says" or something to that effect, then obviously it would be impossible for me to be better than god in this respect too.

What is it with... let's be nice and call them staunch supporters of an ideology, making so many assumptions and mind reading about you?

@Xenophon @hrast @book
I was talking about pride. Pretty sure pride is considered a sin by Christianity.

@book @Xenophon @hrast
But it's not the judging I find odd. I find it odd that you're so confident about jumping to conclusions.

@Xenophon @hrast @book
>That your position is somehow a unique perspective.
oh god no. Not at all. And I've made no assumption about your past.

@book @Xenophon @hrast
Wait... are you proud of that? Not trying to imply that you're committing a sin, rather it's odd to me to see someone proud of jumping to conclusions so hard and pretending to mind read people.

@book @Xenophon @hrast
You're deriving a lot of meaning from what started as an obvious joke.

@book @Xenophon @hrast
>If you are a disgusting, horrible person, the proposition of an objective and righteous judge is an existential threat.
>IF
And if I'm not?

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