@q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew There's nothing anywhere in the US legal code that stays being a pedophile is illegal. Most child rapists aren't even pedophiles, especially among the actual rapists as opposed to those that had consensual sex.
Estimates for the rate of pedophilia in detected child molesters generally range between 25% and 50%.[105] A 2006 study found that 35% of its sample of child molesters were pedophilic.[106] Pedophilia appears to be less common in incest offenders,[107] especially fathers and step-fathers.[108] According to a U.S. study on 2429 adult male sex offenders who were categorized as "pedophiles", only 7% identified themselves as exclusive; indicating that many or most child sexual abusers may fall into the non-exclusive category.[10]

But attraction to "CP" is a good measure of whether someone is a pedo, such as child models or lolicon, so it's fair to call them a pedo

@applejack @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew "wow lots of people who molested children told our labcoats that they didn't actually want to! That means it's rare!" Never, ever trust surveys as "science."

Also, "porn is free speech" is literally a Jewish argument that they used to introduce and industrialize porn here.

@Returned_tryhard @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew
They use phallometrics. But if it's so easy to hide, then it would be kinda hard to explain the rate of it in the general population
27.7% (Firestone et al. 2000)
14.3% (Marshall et al. 1986)
18.3% (Fedora et al. 1992)
19.4% (Freund et al. 1991)
25% (Seto et al. 2000)

I'm not arguing for porn, I'd accept porn being illegal. I'm talking about free-speech in explaining why we should return to tradition. Jewish "civil rights" morality is what made this taboo in the first place, then jewish sociology made up the inherent harm lie, and today pushed by people like the most prominent anti-consent campaigner (((Dr. David Finkelhor)))
"Ultimately, I do continue to believe that the prohibition on adult-child sexual contact is primarily a moral issue. While empirical findings have some relevance they are not the final arbiter...
Some types of social relationships violate deeply held values and principles in our culture about equality and self-determination. Sex between adults and children is one of them. Evidence that certain children have positive experiences does not challenge these values, which have deep roots in our worldview. This is the main reason that Sandfort's research has had relatively little attention, and has little relevance for policy."

@applejack @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew on the one hand, yes, age of consent laws at present were made by Jews to screw with society. On the other hand it doesn't take much research at all to figure out that relationships between adults and children are deeply harmful and usually result in depression, psychosis, gender dysphoria, and a whole host of other issues, and the fact you're ignoring this is disgusting

@Returned_tryhard @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew I'm not ignoring this, I know it's untrue. I've already posted about it. People were marrying 12yos are late as the 1950s, how the hell would they get traumatised without people knowing? Just the fact positive experiences exist at all proves this isn't true, but:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/967082
Meta-analyses revealed that students with CSA were, on average, slightly less well adjusted than controls. However, this poorer adjustment could not be attributed to CSA because family environment (FE) was consistently confounded with CSA, FE explained considerably more adjustment variance than CSA, and CSA-adjustment relations generally became nonsignificant when studies controlled for FE. Self-reported reactions to and effects from CSA indicated that negative effects were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women. The college data were completely consistent with data from national samples. Basic beliefs about CSA in the general population were not supported.

Also what mechanism does it work on. I know with jewish sociology you just make stuff up and pretend it's obvious, but why would they have evolved a self destruct switch for something they do themselves without issue and for something that involves no force, stress, harm, and can even feel good and satisfying. It's a bonding activity for a reason.

@Eris @applejack @PROtoss987 @ew @q @zero he's using pilpul to conflate marriage in rigid religious traditional society with fucking.

@Returned_tryhard @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew I'm explicitly arguing for marriage, of which consummation is a part. AOC historically was about marriage, not sex. Marriage includes sex, so any argument against sex I have a foot in the game.

@applejack @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew dude did you even read the points I brought up previously or is your brain seriously that damaged from porn
@applejack @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew you think you're agreeing with me but I am not agreeing with you and I have made that pretty clear.

It's one thing to say "12 year olds were better off marrying nice Catholic teenage boys (who are forced to to to Latin mass every day and get the shit beaten out of them if they miss Mass) than they are on social media" as an isolated statement. It's totally another to say this within the context of a thread about not liking child pornography, and to extrapolate and say "because society used to be this way child porn is okay!"
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@Returned_tryhard @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew I don't care about the rest of the threat, that's your issue. No porn is okay, I've said this.

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@applejack @q @Eris @PROtoss987 @zero @ew doesn't matter, only a pedo jumps into a "pedophilia is bad" thread and says "akshually no its good." It doesn't matter that you deny reading the context. You had to have read enough of it to know what you're doing.
@Returned_tryhard @applejack @PROtoss987 @ew @q @zero
If people say "hang all the pedophiles" and you go "well hang on a second..." you're a pedophile and you should be hanged.
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