@KayFaraday
"A sexual attraction to little girls makes you a pedophile"
*50 flips about "not real"*
@Atma311 @KayFaraday I know no one made that argument here. Lolicons will post that meme and then make this argument in general.
>"gateway drug" to pedophilia
For self awareness/acceptance of it, it essentially is. Liking little cartoon girls gives you a safer way to realise that you actually just like little girls (obviously).
@Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311 wtf is that supposed to mean
@Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311 I'm not going to try and decipher your facebook mom platitudes
@Emperor1 @applejack @Atma311 or you could rephrase your position
@Emperor1 @applejack @Atma311 how is love a gateway drug to pedophilia
@Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311
>the idea of gateway drug is incorrect in itself in regard to any love
Why? X thing can lead to X++
>gateway x is a term used by repressive types to increase their repression of others
And? If it's a bad thing, then repressing it is a good thing.
@Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311 Pedophilia isn't a bad thing
@applejack @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311
I agree.
this was a weird thread that made me think two different people were antis and then a little bit later made me think both those people were actually pro-map and now I'm confused.
@applejack @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311
upon reflection I think you were both just arguing that being a lolicon makes you a pedo and that's fine. which, yeah based.
@Crankenstein @Emperor1 @KayFaraday @Atma311
>without secondary sexual characteristics
A secondary implies there's a primary
>Kids do not want to partake in any sexual conduct unless coached to do so by pedophiles.
Consistent with our findings, masturbation has been reported to start in most children before 2 years of age .
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/47718104_Infantile_and_early_childhood_masturbation_Sex_hormones_and_clinical_profile
@jeffcliff @Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @applejack @Atma311 I'm sorry to hear that. Nobody here is arguing that that isn't abhorrent though.
@Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @applejack @Atma311 @jeffcliff i explicitly didn't specify as i wasn't sure of the contact stances of others in this thread
@KayFaraday @Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @Atma311 @jeffcliff Saying rape when you mean sex makes about as much sense here as one of those fembloats saying they were raped by being looked at. If you think it's bad anyway, okay, but you should probably treat "rape" like rape and "sex" like sex.
@jeffcliff @Emperor1 @VanillaGorilla @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311
So do anecdotes in the other direction count too or is it an exception in your favour?
https://www.ipce.info/host/rivas/girls_men.htm
Then actually looking at overall non-coercive sex
A meta-analytic examination of assumed properties of child sexual abuse using college samples
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9670820/
However, this poorer adjustment could not be attributed to CSA because family environment (FE) was consistently confounded with CSA, FE explained considerably more adjustment variance than CSA, and CSA-adjustment relations generally became nonsignificant when studies controlled for FE. Self-reported reactions to and effects from CSA indicated that negative effects were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women. The college data were completely consistent with data from national samples. Basic beliefs about CSA in the general population were not supported.
And then obviously, it shows because:
Sauzier, M. (1989). "Disclosure of child sexual abuse: For better or for worse," Psychiatric Clinics of North America, 12, 455-69.
"Fifty-five per cent of the 156 children seen purposefully disclosed their sexual abuse, most frequently to their mothers. Children who never told, but were seen after accidental disclosures, showed less distress, whether hiding minor or major forms of sexual abuse. This finding support the clinical impression that disclosure adds extra stress on children and cannot be expected of every victim. [...] Approximately 18 months after the end of the crisis intervention offered at intake, 115 of the 156 cases were re-evaluated. Overall, most children showed improvements on standardized tests, but 24 per cent got worse. [...] A final word of caution comes from the 19 per cent of adolescents who regretted their disclosures."
APA press release: Online Sex Abuse Cases Not Characterized By Deception, Abduction And Force, Research Shows
"The authors also recommend training for law enforcement since some of the targeted youth may not initially see themselves as victims and may require sensitive interviewing in order to cooperate with investigators."
If you're gaslit into being upset, it makes sense you would be
@VanillaGorilla @Emperor1 @Crankenstein @KayFaraday @Atma311
Pedophilia was normal universally before jewry. It's only after jewry that it became abnormal. Explain your schizo causality there for me
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J056v16n02_03
but the assumption is that it is a bad thing
this has to be proven
if it is a good thing then repressing it will have bad results