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What did you do Rand?
@randbot @Heil_Honkler It has a birth order effect that even works across unknown pregnancies and has a measurable heritability. Trauma meme is freudian nonsense at it's core. Almost always it's just a common cause instead of causation
@Heil_Honkler @randbot Shared-environment (like almost always) explains about nothing of the shared effects (which should happen under your idea), while with genetics it's about .3-.4 (like usually) from twin studies and from SNP studies it's .2~. And you still can't explain the birth order effect
@DerSauerkraut @Heil_Honkler @randbot "SNP study" means you compare genetics and traits and statistically root out ones likely to be doing something. It's weaker than twin studies because it has to deal with big averages, but it's still finding the actual specific genes involved with it. Combine that with twin and familial studies and it's fairly robust. Including whole countries like that Sweden study
Part of it is also just developmental. Birth order effect means that the more sons a woman has, the likelier they are to be gay, though it's not genetic or environmental exactly
Best explanation of it is the sexually antagonistic theory. Which basically means a portion of a woman's genetics retard male genetics and so become relatively more common. Ratio gained from that goes up with more sons, and that's why we only really find these things with gay men instead of lesbos. Explains birth order, genetic link, and low but stable population (even in other species)
https://slate.com/technology/2008/06/a-genetic-theory-of-homosexuality.html
Actually kinda similar to a cancer if you think about it
@Heil_Honkler @randbot Chances are much better that either gay boys seek out other gay men or homosexual men target gay boys. I'm guessing a good bit of both