what's up with that lol
@Kyonko802 @Halo "Sure, I jack off to drawings of hairy muscular men sodomising eachother, but what people don't realise is they're DRAWINGS they're FICTION, I'm NOT GAY"
@Kyonko802 @Halo You can trace a naked little girl 1:1, crop out the head, and lolicons would still be attracted to it
You have to understand. It just sounds so fucking retarded. You have to realise this. I get the mental cope is somewhat necessary, but apply it to anything else in any other way and your brain has to realise it
"NO!!!!!! THE COCK IS ONLY JUICY IF ITS DRAWING FROM IMAGINATION! I AM NOT GAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!"
@DogGodNova @Halo @Kyonko802 Only started from Kyonko talking about IRL lolis
@DogGodNova @Halo @Kyonko802 Also, actually. How come MLP translates to horses but loli doesn't translate to LGs?
@DogGodNova @Halo @Kyonko802 No, but it's an interesting sidepoint that still plays into my main
This is why Kyonko said he doesn't want to fucking argue with you (fags) anymore. Your argument was literally that lolicon does translate to pedophilia, so your pony bs should translate to you liking pony's and your talk of gay porn and cocks should also translate to you being a homosexual.
@Immahnoob @DogGodNova @Halo @Kyonko802 I don't fap to horses, drawn or not, I just think they make cute avatars. Bit I agree, if someone faps to horses, it's probably due to something other than being attracted to the concept of it being a drawing or whatever
So you agree that lolicons are attracted to LGs?
That's not my point, I don't even know why you have to mention this.
>Bit I agree, if someone faps to horses, it's probably due to something other than being attracted to the concept of it being a drawing or whatever
I never agreed though, I'm saying it's bullshit either way. Be it homosexual shit or not, although there's an additional argument to be made for homosexual/bisexual/etc shit, since ATTRACTION TO A SEX and ATTRACTIVE CHARACTERISTICS are two different things.
>So you agree that lolicons are attracted to LGs?
Wtf is an LG.
@Immahnoob @DogGodNova @Halo @Kyonko802
>so your pony bs should translate to you liking pony's
>I don't even know why you have to mention this
Unless you were saying that just liking MLP translates to horse fuckery, it is. I don't know why you'd argue that, since I haven't at any point argued that people that like cute lolis non-sexually are pedos
>I'm saying it's bullshit either way
Your other post was literally just you agreeing with me with a kekw, but alright. Why is it bullshit?
>an additional argument
You haven't made a primary
>ATTRACTION TO A SEX and ATTRACTIVE CHARACTERISTICS are two different things
Why?
>Wtf is an LG.
IRL loli
@Immahnoob @DogGodNova @Halo @Kyonko802
>I gave you the absurd conclusion that your argument reaches
It wasn't absurd. People attracted to X are attracted to X
>tentacle porn would like to be fucked by a squid or fuck a squid
It's a method for multiple penetration and rape, not squids
>furry would fuck animals or would like to be fucked by animals
Like they often do, yeah
>guro, vore, etc, dismember people or fuck corpses.
1. The context isn't such that you like it because it's a drawing, but you might stop liking it when moralism kicks in. The fact you're attracted to the bodies of children remains the same. Maybe, theoretically you're sexually attracted to the paper or something, but 99% of cases it's just cute LG bodies
2. Actual equivalence here would be that gurofags and vorefogs are sexual sadists and whateverthefuckvoreisists, which is true and fair
>Pedophilia is not a sexuality
Yeah, it's just normal. Girls were generally married historically and prehistorically 12-16 (12 is officially counted as pedo, and it bell curves a bit anyway). Though mainstream psychologically does consider it an orientation when there are no negatives (DSM5)
Then you rant about "straight men can fap to gay porn too". Uh huh
>Lolis are basically full-grown women with all the benefits and sometimes the cutesy behaviors of a young girl
Lmao. I don't know which is funnier. Lolis are just tiny adults or hags have benefits
>find a single child that can [list of traits] as a loli
Why? Your attraction is to the body, not [list of traits]. They have the bodies of children. I don't feel like I need a demonstration, nigger, just look at her
and i like guro but not sexually
No, your argument is that people that are attracted to X are actually attracted to Y^2 and Z34 and are lizard people as well.
>It's a method for multiple penetration and rape, not squids
So all of a sudden it has a deeper meaning? Thanks for proving my point.
>Like they often do, yeah
Women are more into rape porn, way more than men, yet more men rape than women do.
Since you can find deeper meaning in tentacle porn, you could probably find deeper meaning here as well.
>1. The context isn't such that you like it because it's a drawing, but you might stop liking it when moralism kicks in. The fact you're attracted to the bodies of children remains the same. Maybe, theoretically you're sexually attracted to the paper or something, but 99% of cases it's just cute LG bodies
You're arguing from the most unlikely position there is. I have no reason to either lie or to be ashamed, I am also 100% sure that anyone that is "ashamed" or feels "immoral" will still have a sexual response to the thing they feel "ashamed" or "immoral" about, making this a non-argument.
>2. Actual equivalence here would be that gurofags and vorefogs are sexual sadists and whateverthefuckvoreisists, which is true and fair
So it can have a deeper meaning, again, it's the same with every other fetish, just like pedophilia isn't a sexual attraction, a fetish is not some "monkey see, monkey do" business either.
>Yeah, it's just normal. Girls were generally married historically and prehistorically 12-16 (12 is officially counted as pedo, and it bell curves a bit anyway).
Prepubescent, I don't care about teens. No one's talking about pedophilia in the terms of "minor" here.
>Then you rant about "straight men can fap to gay porn too". Uh huh
So you have no argument. That's ok, trying to avoid a whole side of the discussion just means you're conceding that point.
>Lmao. I don't know which is funnier. Lolis are just tiny adults or hags have benefits
Lolis are whatever you want them to be, especially sexually, because they're neither real nor realistic, the sensations and emotions will always be what you want them to be, unlike imagining something closer to reality, which might inhibit that because of previous experiences.
>Why? Your attraction is to the body, not [list of traits]
You are contradicting yourself again, but I know it's intentional that you act like you're mentally retarded. "The body" isn't real, "the body" is an amalgamation of characteristics since it's a depiction. And before you go on a tirade about "But a depiction of what?", it's an anime character, no real creature is equivalent to it, at most they're a depiction of a humanoid.
Anyway, men find unattractive women with more alluring and inviting expressions (sultry) on average a lot more attractive than women that do not try such a thing in their photos, this is like several traits together.
Men find neotenic characteristics attractive as well, which is another trait.
Since I saw you post that MLP horse pussy shit, I'll go on and say that's exactly the point here.
Are men pedophiles for wanting shaved pussy? No, despite it being pretty much a child's trait.
MLPfags probably wouldn't get near an actual pony anyway, did you ever try cleaning after a horse or smelling one in general? Haha, good luck.
You're either intentionally daft or you have some problems. This discussion started from liking lolis sexually and you made a comparison to gay porn. I have no idea if you're into MLP sexually or not, I've brought in a hypothetical, you defending yourself like you're guilty is unnecessary and retarded.
>Your other post was literally just you agreeing with me with a kekw, but alright. Why is it bullshit?
Again, are you stupid? You made the argument and I gave you the absurd conclusion that your argument reaches, I never agreed with you.
If we take your point seriously, people that are into tentacle porn would like to be fucked by a squid or fuck a squid. People that are into furry would fuck animals or would like to be fucked by animals. People that are into guro would like to dismember people or fuck corpses. People that are into vore would want to be eaten alive.
None of this is true for the majority of the fetishists.
>You haven't made a primary
Mentally retarded, clearly. The argument has been made literally instantly and you answered it with your bullshit gay porn one.
>Why?
Because sexual attraction is a lot more complex than monkey see and monkey fap, you dumb fuck. That's why.
Otherwise, we'd see a lot more people die from being eaten by animals with family members telling us about their vore fetish.
Pedophilia is not a sexuality, they feel attraction towards prepubescent individuals because their brain tells them those are apt for reproduction, so they get a response.
The sexuality of a pedophile is either bi, homosexual or heterosexual.
Someone that watches hentai trap pornography is not necessarily attracted to the real-life equivalent because the real-life equivalent has no important similarities to the animated equivalent.
Someone that watches gay pornography is the same case actually, it's just very unlikely that they're not homosexual because of the characteristics of the material itself (AKA "being real").
You're all arguing like retards about the interiority of individuals, still relying on probabilities. I'm sure there is at least a single individual in this world that beats his meat to gay porn and would never even fathom touching a real man's dick in their life or having their's touched by a real man, not out of some psychological restraint, but simply because they're not attracted to actual men.
Disregarding that, it's very simple to understand why someone into trap/yaoi/bara/whatever porn is not also into gay porn or men. Simply because the animated category is idealized to 11 to the point of non-similarity.
It's the same for lolicon or for any other fetish. Lolis are basically full-grown women with all the benefits and sometimes the cutesy behaviors of a young girl.
Try and find a single child that can look like, act like, comprehend like, react like and be as safe as a loli, you probably will never be able to, maybe there is that ONE child just like there's that ONE man that is into gay pornography but not into men, but she'll probably remain a virgin until maturity and we'll have to wait for another 10000 years for another example to appear.
If I'm a pedophile for liking lolicon, then I clearly haven't yet met an attractive child, I've only been meeting short stacks that made me lull my tongue like a dog.
Otherwise, my thoughts are not towards children, they're at animated DFCs, it's those that help me finish, or animated milfs.