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The communists lose the argument because they have also not known history or what Marx wrote and think "communism is when personal rights" when it is about class struggle and no, communist countries weren't perfect (shocker)
@Spaghettimon communists sure do a lotta blibber blabber about it BEING perfect though
@Spaghettimon specially stalin
@prouddegenerate Tankies are retarded, if Stalin had continued Lenin's policies the USSR would still exist and be a much better place than it was post-stalin
@Spaghettimon in ur communist utopia what do you see yourself working
@Spaghettimon I'd have already killed myself
@prouddegenerate And why is that a reason?
For what I know, it's in the capitalist countries where the suicide rate is going up
For what I know, it's in the capitalist countries where the suicide rate is going up
@Spaghettimon it is in my nigger-americam blood to despise communism
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate and thats also just not being retarded tbh
@Mysha @prouddegenerate "not be retarded" says the person living in the country that bankrupts people over their right to live
@prouddegenerate @Mysha Oh, and the place where people also go bankrupt over studying
@prouddegenerate @Spaghettimon Definitely no, federal grants aswell as community college exist
@Mysha @prouddegenerate Community college is not at all respected, and you know. Brazilian public universities have more reputation, and we are a poorer, less developed country that the only difference is that the Workers Party was in control for 13 years
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate the day that any communist party gets control of the us, is the day the entire world blows the fuck up
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate starting with brazil
@Mysha @prouddegenerate I am regularizing myself to join our Communist Party
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate american leftists want your country blown off of the face of the earth
@Mysha @prouddegenerate If you say Democrats are leftists you don't know what leftism is
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate democratic leaders arent leftist, democractic followers are
@Mysha @prouddegenerate They also aren't. They support "good companies". There are no good companies
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate Leftism isnt restricted to communism and anarchism
@Mysha @prouddegenerate Anarchism isn't by definition left, it's centerlib
Leftism is socialism and communism. The democrats are neither. Y'all have both a Socialist and a Communist, and a few other left parties, but the huge majority of the US are cappie-fans who disagree in how progressive the capitalism has to be
Leftism is socialism and communism. The democrats are neither. Y'all have both a Socialist and a Communist, and a few other left parties, but the huge majority of the US are cappie-fans who disagree in how progressive the capitalism has to be
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate "the huge majority of the US"
lmao no the majority of the us is centerists who dont give a shit or patriots who also dont give a shit
lmao no the majority of the us is centerists who dont give a shit or patriots who also dont give a shit
@Mysha @prouddegenerate They do give a shit, everybody has opinions. If they didn't give a shit, they wouldn't vote
@Spaghettimon @prouddegenerate You do realized it is a requirement to vote or else you can get fined right?
@Mysha @prouddegenerate Tfw the most capitalist country can bankrupt poor people that refuse to follow the system
@prouddegenerate @Spaghettimon america isnt the most capitalist country and also literally no one supports this asides from the serious patriots who think that democracy can only live if people are forced to partake in it
@Mysha @prouddegenerate Well, the billionaires who move to it beg to disagree
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@Spaghettimon @Mysha @prouddegenerate Tell me who those billionaires are and why they do it. You won't, because they're the ones that made and propagate your tool of an ideology too
That's why you support every single bourgeoisie social policy that corps, governments, the UN, the EU, every celebrity, all of them, fucking support. You literally have mainstream communist celebrities, kike schools with hebrew emblems pushing it, because it's not a threat to them
You're a retarded tool. Fucking shut up about "refuse to follow the system", you're part of it
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>fill the country with foreigners
No, that's capitalism's doing (as you can clearly see every capitalist country doing, and every communist country not doing)
>Destroy traditions
What destroys is capitalism, through its subversion for profit
>gender roles
We're going back to when gender roles were more equal
>culture
Why would we?
>Religion
Just like the religions of old died when they became obsolete, the new religions will die when they become obsolete. Marx thought this would happen with the advent of communism, but I believe it'll take a lot longer
>Doing everything capitalism is doing & every bourgeois institution is supporting
I don't see any capitalist eating billionaires
>fill the country with foreigners
No, that's capitalism's doing (as you can clearly see every capitalist country doing, and every communist country not doing)
>Destroy traditions
What destroys is capitalism, through its subversion for profit
>gender roles
We're going back to when gender roles were more equal
>culture
Why would we?
>Religion
Just like the religions of old died when they became obsolete, the new religions will die when they become obsolete. Marx thought this would happen with the advent of communism, but I believe it'll take a lot longer
>Doing everything capitalism is doing & every bourgeois institution is supporting
I don't see any capitalist eating billionaires
>Tell me who those billionaires are and why they do it. You won't, because they're the ones that made and propagate your tool of an ideology too
They're bourgeois and do it for profit
>That's why you support every single bourgeoisie social policy that corps, governments, the UN, the EU, every celebrity, all of them, fucking support.
No I don't (a little the UN)