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@RoyalJohnny242 Yes, porn as a industry is awful
That doesn't mean you get to cope by picking and choosing what's Free Speech or not
@applejack @RoyalJohnny242 This I disagree with though. Obscenity laws were a thing for ages even during the free-ist period speech has ever been.
@Insomnolant @RoyalJohnny242 And the US had and has blasphemy laws too, despite literally saying "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
They're just not very consistent
By the exact same logic you can blasphemy is not Free Speech, and at that point you're very clearly not talking about the same concept as anyone else
My point is entirely that an admin labeling something that already isn't illegal under the current repressive regime as unacceptable speech is a bad thing to support if a person wants to keep saying things of any import on a platform he runs.
@Insomnolant @RoyalJohnny242 I'm not either, I just dislike it when people try and have their cake and eat it
I think there are pragmatics with banning shit, but something as basic as a DNS blacklist and prosecuting companies like PH would only be good, especially in preventing kids from accessing it and getting rid of some of the monstrous actors in it, but I'll admit that's anti-Free Speech
I tend to think that people are legitimately much more happy in a society that doesn't value free speech so much as one that values good morals. A founding set of principles about how the country can be run should be aggressively defended against those who wish to alter or subvert, simply because otherwise the shape of the nation's people loses all cohesion as everyone pushes in all sorts of directions at odds with the reason for the original founding.
Obviously with a nation like the US that takes on a very different form than one built around a historic people group, but even in the case of the latter there is a value to using newer social structures (large government and legal codes) to preserve historic mindsets and morals.
This only works in an ideal world where people are freely and easily permitted to change their country of residence without being punished for trying to escape a nation's morality they do not agree with. And it requires something of a Wild West area where those unable to live under any set of codes can go to act out their chaotic libertarian fantasies.
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime soon, so this is all along the lines of a thought experiment. That is to say, interesting to talk about but pretty useless.
@Insomnolant @RoyalJohnny242 I'm not entirely clear why everyone is taking this from an exclusively American legal context anyway
A "freedom to speak" is a general concept
Not like you'll change your view to X, Y, Z not being Free Speech if/when they become illegal in the US anyway, since that's clearly retarded