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>Gender identity itself is another detivative, a bunch of categories and classifications that differentiate between pronoun preferences and a variety of social and aesthetic characteristics that... Are sexist in the first place. Theres no need for the "this is manly, thats feminine, this specific combination of masculine and feminine traits needs to categorized and labeled with a gender identity title". All we actually need is a single pronoun for a person or multiple people. "They" functions just fine as both, and is already becoming the default.

thats literally counter intuitive to a good amount of people, especially dyshporic people. Gender roles go a long way legitimately towards helping them feel like they fit in in spite of their dysphoria. Along with that, especially with masculinity at least, I can confirm that guys benefit from having a set of standards that they are suppossed to excel in due to their gender. Is it superficial that guys mainly want success in life due to these "social constructs". Sure for the short term but that superficial motivation also helps us go farther and achieve in the first place, creating another motivation for being productive other than simply passion for something, as relying on pure passion for something is unreliable and sporadic. In fact, using myself, I'll work more on my certification than my hobbys not because the certification course expires in a couple of months and that sense of urgency pushes me. Socially constructs aren't inherently bad, we just need to make sure they are flexible enough to respect people's free will while giving guidelines in case they feel directionless. Gender roles can easily fall into that

>What point is there to inventing all these new pronouns and categories in the battle against sexism, when all it does is create more sexism? The whole concept of a gender identity is... ridiculous. It used to make sense because male and female were specific roles in a primitive society. Those roles now overlap and are entirely obsolete. You sex matters for medical reasons and for the ability to procreate; it does not, or should not, matter anywhere else in this advanced, "civilized" society.

Sure, if we are to take the most materialistic approach to life and whatnot, no gender identities don't matter. Hell, I agree that creating more gender identities aren't productive. But to act like as if people still don't use gender for interactions in life, from things like making judgements about whether we should have women in the battlefield down to even relating to other people, is to ignore most people's opinions on the matter. As a dude, talking with the other sex is hard as those sexual urges can kick in especially and just make tensions higher, thus leading to guys having commradery over that experience since its specific to dudes.
I don't se the use in new gender identities or even pronouns and what not. However, I can say for sure that there are shared experiences that dudes have that women won't relate to in this century, if ever, and vice versa. Gender abolition makes no sense, and neither does removing all pronouns except for "they"

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