It troubles me deeply that Bocchi's parents know that she has problems making friends and socializing, and instead of helping her they just stare at her like a strange bug...

And it troubles me more the fact that... it actually happens, parents do be like that.

@keisuke dunno... i think they wan't to help. but dunno what they should do. and i understand it.. if bocchi want to change.. she must do it from herself.. and she does that in small steps, one at a time... like it should be.

i kinda was like that some years ago too.. but i changed.. i'm still not good with socializing to unkown ppl.. but i think i changed a lot. and i think if i received pressure from outside, i would closed myself even more.

urgh.. sometimes i can't put my thoughts in good words.. sorry

@rick @keisuke You talking about Bocchi the Rock

@stefan @keisuke mh? yeah?

@rick @keisuke Just watched it really recently (like last week) And atleast from what I can see from the talk (which is only your post before my answer) there is truth to what you say.

Bocchi herself has a clear goal in mind but she needs to get terms with her anxiety though to get even a chance to reach it though. So she is forced (kind of) to be a better version of herself. With maybe some outside help but the final push in the direction is coming from her.

Also the slow improvement (which is steadily visiable throughout the show) made her pretty believeable as a character to me. She might be an extreme case of an introvert but even still...

As for outside-forces. You always need some form of outside to help you realize you have a problem and gain the desire to change it. For me it was a friend telling me I should get my ass of the ground and do *something* to not feel lonely anymore. Which I try to do bit by bit.

That said I am still working on my skills with people and mess up again and again along the way (really depends on the person I interact with though some are more lenient to me than others)

But I also see that too much outside pressure might lead to more going back into ones shell really.

Its a delicate balance for me also to kinda feel well interacting in a group of people.

Though the anime gives me yet another push (after that one week in college talking about stuff on the psychological side and how to maybe approach opening up more)

@stefan @keisuke >Also the slow improvement (which is steadily visiable throughout the show) made her pretty believeable as a character to me. She might be an extreme case of an introvert but even still...

yeah, this what i loved so much about the show.. you clearly see a small and steady progress.. i also see some parallels to my past self, but i was never thaaaaaatttt bad back than. i always had some friends, but i had problems speaking to stranges (maybe a little bit like in watamote)

>As for outside-forces. You always need some form of outside to help you realize you have a problem and gain the desire to change it

okay, yeah you and @keisuke are right. if my friends never said 'hey, wanna go to that dev meetup' i would probably never changed much.. there i saw that even strange ppl can become good friends. also strangers don't kill you if you talk to them ;) after that i did go to more meetups.. still have some goosebumps somtimes, but its mostly these meetups are still fun

also here my favorite scene: https://super8.absturztau.be/watch?v=QjmnsAWGm8E