Idk how trans people are even supposed to exist in this world. I feel like cis people need to actually step the fuck up and protect us.

@cafkafk trans people existing is a danger to the social order because it deconstructs one of the most basic forms of essentialism it is built on (gender)

@chjara I’m just suprised that his is not more of a priority for those people that can make a change. Personally, I would not be able to sleep, not just knowing how much awful shit I’d be causing by my passivity, but also they do realize that trans people hold a grudge like anyone else right?

@cafkafk @chjara I mean there are a huge number of other issues out there. don't see why we would be a priority
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> don't see why we would be a priority
I feel like in the same vein, anything beneficial to cis people should not be a priority for trans people

@antisophon @chjara Like actually why would I teach cis people, or make software for them, or like participate in society when there is no reciprocity at all. I literally should just go full Grothendieck.

@cafkafk @chjara not sure how serious you are but---I think this is an incoherent attitude

"society" does not exist. the idea of contributing to it isn't even meaningful. to the extent you involve yourself in society, that's a decision you make to pursue your goals; it's not altruistic. and you don't interact with "society"; when you do so you are interacting with actual individuals. are the actual interactions you are having with actual individuals helping you fulfill your desires? if so you should continue having them
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@antisophon @cafkafk @chjara Being part of a mindless collective is like being in a warm bath, but it's also very scary when non members interact, it's like an eel suddenly appearing in the bath

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