@sandy @cummies well, not really. If someone else is breathing for you, you aren't really built yet. Like, you don't say a house has been around since construction started, you say it's been around since the construction is finished, and someone could live there. You can make note of when construction started, but that can be pretty misleading. Especially if there's a chance the foundation can just fall off the face of the earth before you even start framing.