best dystopian novel?


read: BEST. dystopian fiction is a great genre. but what’s number one?
clearly i once again gave the fedizens too many choices because the true point of this poll was to decide if ABNW or 1984 was better >_>

@theblessing 1984 is about the experience of a low caste member in a dystopia, bnw is about the experience of a high caste member. High cast members get to go to the feelies, the orgies, they get to have soma, they have relative freedom. The proles in 1984 get jack shit, they get the two minutes hate and gruel and barely any cigarettes and have to make a razor last long past it's point of usability. The proles do not get to have feelies, and orgies, and soma, no, the proles get to have disgusting old rotten whores with painted faces to trick you until you get real close, close enough to smell em.

@Jazzy_Butts @theblessing No, because you can be a low caste member and get all the drugs and feelings with no freedom and still be forced to lie about what's in front of your eyes for basic necessities. In Brave New World, everyone got soma, children were trained in erotic games because everyone had to belong to everyone else. There was no individual love for who you would live or die for, no families or pregnancy. Complete detachment from the small animal groups that enabled our survival as human reproduction was done via machines that would literally help make people stupider so that they wouldn't be able to challenge and move out the caste. Like an ant colony.

Also women are people.

Women are not a resource to extract, asshole.

Brave New world is consumption as escape from tyranny and 1984 is isolation and authoritarianism with out right authoritative denial of the very tyranny that oppresses him. It destroys love and family via psychological means without using technology because it's not developed yet.

@angryandignored @theblessing You're a cunt but you make good points, yet you completely ignore the fact that those children were not prole children, they were not wildmen chileren, they were chileren grown in tubes, like all the other upper class members, because they were upper class children. And so I'm still right, and not quite as retarded as I appear.

@Jazzy_Butts @angryandignored @theblessing Any particular reason you felt the need to start off by calling her a cunt? Just wondering why you didn't feel your argument would stand on it's own without the insult.
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@Fullycaffeinated @theblessing @angryandignored I'm generally nice to people when they're not pieces of shit btw, so if you want to side with team shitbird, the shithawk of shitfuck retard mountain, be my guest, and I'll call you a cunt too.

@Jazzy_Butts @Fullycaffeinated @theblessing I'm usually nice...[but my opinion is that in fiction women aren't people even in dystopian novels, they merely exist to trick men who have an imperative for sex but also in another fiction everyone having orgies is totally more rewarding because even though it's detached and nonintimate, I like the idea of orgies]

I mean in each novel there's a totalitarian government preventing any sort of bond between two people.

When was the last time you read Brave New World? Do you not understand how going through the motions with no deep connections is depicted as isolating?

Oh wait, you probably just imagine orgasming a lot and I suppose since 1984 had a government that wanted to destroy the orgasm, that's why you disliked it.
@Jazzy_Butts @theblessing @angryandignored I've called you no names, just asked a question. Call me whatever you like, it really changes nothing to my life.

To get back to the point, replacing women with machines takes the humanity out of being humans and reduces children to a commodity. It is not something to strive for and would probably have a disastrous impact in the synthetically-created offspring.
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