Notice how it's "rape" if a woman is drunk, but all women admit that they NEED alcohol to be comfortable with sex, and prefer being drunk to have sex. Rape involves coercion, manipulation, deception, or force. Having consensual sex while drunk on substances ONE TOOK THEMSELVES (as opposed to being drugged against knowledge or will) is NOT and it will NEVER BE "rape", it will be a bad decision at worst, so long as no force, manipulation or deception took place.

@Jazzy_Butts > but all women admit that they NEED alcohol to be comfortable with sex,

jazzy im sorry but if all women youve talked to need to have alchohol to be comfortable wtih sex then you need to reevaluate

@kallisti EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, GIGGLES AND SAYS HOW SEX IS WAY, WAY FUNNER DRUNK, THEY GET DRUNK, THEY HAVE SEX, CALLING THAT RAPE
A) MINIMIZES REAL RAPE
B) IMPLIES WOMEN CAN'T HAVE A DRINK AND HAVE SEX AND HAVE PREFERENCES WITHOUT BEING A TRAUMATIZED LITTLE VICTIM (MEN FACE NO SUCH LABELING)

@kallisti Ok so I didn't mean what you call drunk, that's what I call wasted, or smashed, or fucked. We're talking about the same thing, being tipsy. And take it up with the chicks they're the ones who speak in absolute terms, they joke, but they say "I hate sober sex" so how else am I supposed to take that? They HATE sober sex. And it's not with ME. This has nothing to do with me. I rarely smash drunk because I don't drink and so neither would my date (we smoke instead.). But these are things I'd hear women say when I was a child, I'd overhear shit, them talking amongst themselves. So it's not like I'm some chud or something.

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@kallisti *I don't drink often, I tried drinking to help with pain last year but it didn't help much so I never got more after running out

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