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"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable – what then?"


George Orwell, 1984

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@Grandtheftautism

> the correct response is "What are your definitions and axioms?"

"Different" doesn't always mean "interesting" and "interesting" doesn't always mean "useful".

I didn't know this "2+2=5" shit was a new retarded meme. I wish they'd question something interesting instead of turning math into a sociology project.

I'll just go ahead and add "math criminal" to my resumé.

@p some mathematician posted a "woke math" meme as a joke, and the idiots are falling all over themselves teying to prove that 2 + 2 DOES equal 5, and apparently none of them have realized it's a George Orwell reference, which Orwell stole from Hermann Goring during WWII. They're passionately promoting the ideas of a Nazi.
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@Grandtheftautism @p When did Herming Goring say "2+2=5"? He didn't. Read my post.

@se7en @Grandtheftautism

> He didn't.

Meanwhile:

> However, Orwell spoke of the Nazis, so he may have been making reference to the Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring, who once, in a debatably hyperbolic display of loyalty to Adolf Hitler, declared, "If the Führer wants it, two and two makes five!"

And furthermoreably Orwell says that's where he got it:

> Nazi theory indeed specifically denies that such a thing as "the truth" exists. ... The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, "It never happened" – well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five – well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs.

https://orwell.ru/library/essays/Spanish_War/english/esw_1

@p @Grandtheftautism I was led to believe the origin of the phrase was created as propaganda to advertise the 5 year plan completed in 4 years. I stand corrected.

@se7en @p stalin probably said it too, all those fascists were into 2 + 2 = 5

@Grandtheftautism @p There seems to actually be a long history of the use of the mock equation
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@se7en @p this one's great too, im saving all of them. Good job