I was discussing the faggotry that is vasectomies earlier with a male co-worker and it never ceases to surprise me how terrified people are of having children.
@alcade Kids are a rollercoaster of extremely frustrating and extremely rewarding experiences. It's not the end of life, but the start of a new life.
@wowaname @ArdanianRight

>this kinda deters me from bothering with biological kids at least

That's kinda the point Nature was trying to make to you.
@alcade @ArdanianRight im not mad im just bored that you want to tranny bash rather than have actual discourse
@wowaname @ArdanianRight there's not much discourse to be had with someone who is seriously considering freezing his sperm so he can have kids post-mutilation.

At that point someone is too irrational to really consider the situation clearly. Nature clearly didn't intend on you breeding. Listen.
@wowaname @ArdanianRight whatever you're planning that involves freezing your sperm to impregnate a future partner in your bisexual tranny liaisons probably shouldn't involve children.

Seriously.
@wowaname @ArdanianRight of a test tube kid's broken home before his parents commit suicide and leave him an orphan?

Not so much.
@alcade @ArdanianRight again, try harder. the "all trannies are unstable and suicidal" thing is worn out.
@wowaname @ArdanianRight

>just because we chop off our dicks doesn't mean we are unstable!

Could've fooled me.
@alcade @wowaname @ArdanianRight You are what you were born. That is reality. Everything else is a lie.
@wowaname @ArdanianRight @alcade You can pretend to be, or live as, anything you like. I'm only against it because it's unhealthy.
I'd say the same for guzzling 2 liter bottles of soda every day. Everybody has a cope though.
@Orakel @ArdanianRight @alcade its mentally unhealthy for me to live as a dude, and at that rate i would definitely commit suicide. i think i will take the safer of the two options and lead my life as a woman

and yeah fuck soda, i have like one drink a month now that i moved out
@wowaname @ArdanianRight @alcade
I honestly don't get it. I could live as a dude. I'm a woman because that's what I was born.
Most people don't understand it and never will. We just are what we are. We deal with what we were given. I'm happy to accept trans people as long as they don't change my life.
@Orakel @ArdanianRight @alcade yeah some people are indifferent about their sex. some people arent: there are biological males who would hate to be girls, biological females who would hate to be guys, and when it comes to GID (which i consider myself, despite having little faith in mental disorder classifications for various reasons) there are people who hate their biological sex and feel the *need*, not just the desire, to emulate the sex opposite theirs in part or in full.

ive been living androgynously in my teenage years, and as a female since ive moved out. i dont fetishise it, i simply feel comfortable like this. and im definitely not giving myself an easier time in life. there are people (SJWs mainly) who actively paint a bad image for us, and there are misinformed people who attempt to make our lives more difficult than they should be

im glad youre of the "live and let live" mindset, because thats how i am. in public i really dont try to make a spectacle of myself; online i discuss it more because thats where people, including myself, learn things, see other perspectives, and modify our worldviews hopefully for the better
@Orakel @ArdanianRight @alcade as for why im dysphoric, i can only speculate. i cant really trust any research in the area, especially not now where scientists are being heavily bribed to introduce political bias in their research

but i experience general dissociation a lot, im pretty sure it has to do mainly with that. like when i look at myself, especially younger pictures of myself, theres a part of my brain of course that knows it has to be me, but the majority of my brain cannot register it as me. it looks alien. it isnt who i am now, at a fundamental level.

and if you want to hear me out on spirituality, i believe i have a feminine soul, and i feel like over the years, ive been "soul searching" and discovering my true self more and more. if you are sceptical about that part, thats fine; especially since ive barely described my experiences, nor do i care to within the context of this thread, because its just a long story

but yeah, im definitely not a dude, i cannot live happily as one, and for anyone who says im lying to myself: theyre lying to me by calling me something i cannot be.
@wowaname @ArdanianRight @Orakel @alcade And back then they were extraordinarily rare. Now days any girl who likes boyish things and any boy who needs a big helping of man the fuck up is pressured into identifying as a troon and transitioning. I'd wager that less than a tenth of a percent of modern trannies would be trannies without the meddling of the Jews.
@Ricotta @ArdanianRight @Orakel @alcade i dont deny that theres an (((influence))) inflating the number of self-identifying trannies these days
@wowaname @ArdanianRight @Orakel @alcade But do you deny that you're one of the victims of that (((influence)))?
@Ricotta @ArdanianRight @Orakel @alcade i came out, well before transgenderism became the trend, so i have reasonable grounds to believe that i was uninfluenced. for a while i questioned whether i was just gay, like something just didnt feel right about me
@wowaname @Ricotta @ArdanianRight @alcade See, I don't even get the gay thing, because I could like women if I wanted to. I just do what I'm supposed to do.
I never had to think about it that much, and I see that making people think about these things makes them...insane.
That's not a dis on people who are gay and trans.
@Orakel @ArdanianRight @Ricotta @alcade my answer to that is "love is love", its irrational and you fall for people you dont expect to sometimes. if it happens to be that you only have heterosexual relationships, thats fine, but i dont think youre doing it "because youre supposed to" but rather because youre inclined to

i myself have a bias toward women
@wowaname @ArdanianRight @Ricotta @alcade

I don't love things that are bad for me. I get infatuated regularly. I only love the things I am supposed to love, because those are the only things that are good for me.
@Orakel @ArdanianRight @Ricotta @alcade is whom youre "supposed to" love dictated by societal expectation and not your own gut feeling?
@wowaname @ArdanianRight @Ricotta @alcade
Nature. I want what's good and natural.
Gut feelings? My gut tells me to make more like me, not to fall in "love" with whoever I can pair with for fun.
Society would have me be a fat lesbian with short hair and multiple cats. I don't want to be dead and leave nothing behind but cat photos on the interwebs.

This is why I am fine with people like you. I am this thing that I am, and nothing could make me not be this thing that I am.
@georgia @Orakel @ArdanianRight @alcade @wowaname All kids grow up to be embarrassed by their parents. That's half the fun of being the parent of a teenager.
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@Ricotta @wowaname @alcade @ArdanianRight @georgia @Orakel
Nah. When I got to that age, my father just trippled down on making his life amazimg, so it did zero-out itself.

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