@grips
christian and politician cannot be the same person.
Christians must not steal, politicians redistribute wealth stolen at a threat of violence, imprisonment or even death.
Please... do tell me how many christian politicians do what they can to minimize taxes, so the middle class people can put their life together and help others?
@LukeAlmighty Taxes are not theft, embezzling them is.
12:13 And they sent to him some of the Pharisees and of the Herodians: that they should catch him in his words. 12:14 Who coming, say to him: Master, we know that thou art a true speaker and carest not for any man; for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth. Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar? Or shall we not give it? 12:15 Who knowing their wiliness, saith to them: Why tempt you me? Bring me a penny that I may see it. 12:16 And they brought it him. And he saith to them: Whose is this image and inscription? They say to him, Caesar’s. 12:17 And Jesus answering, said to them: Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s. And they marvelled at him.
(Mark 12, Douay-Rheims)
@grips
I cannot leave my house at night
I have to give my money to guys with guns, or violence insues
I have no saying in how much do I have to give, they decide without me.
If I don't have enough money to eat, they don't care, I still have to pay
I cannot meet with my friends at bar/restaurant
I cannot buy new pants even if I have money and shops have pants
Tell me, does this sound "free" to you?
>I cannot leave my house at night
That's new to me.
>I have to give my money to guys with guns, or violence insues
You don't, just don't work lol.
If you don't have enough money to eat, there's a high chance you're even eligible for some.
I do agree taxes are a bit too high in this country. On the other hand, it's not like you don't get things in return. As far as I know, you're studying for free right now. Or do you wanna go the Free™ route and pay up thousands of dollars per year? A loan, mayhaps? *rubrubrub*
@grips
First: let me start by stating the obvious. I do NOT yet believe you're an immoral person. Most people never thought about their morals enough to know what they're saying is evil. So, do understand that my harsh words will be towards your post, not you as a person.
But damn, you do fit the stereotype of immoral christian perfectly. You see me saying that I do consider taxes to be immoral. And you say to me, that I should accept them? Accept the blood money taken at the point of a gun just because I am poor?
>You don't, just don't work lol. I know this was a joke, but it was again playing straight into the stereotype. Food does not collect itself, and our entire society needs working people to keep it from collapsing. Being a parasite when you can support not only yourself, but others aswell is EVIL. Not bad, not immoral, not lazy. It is EVIL.
One person does it, society can handle it. All of them do it, and you get Mineapolis.
>it's not like you don't get things in return
That does not matter. It is a blood money taken from working people and making them unable to support their family.
I thought you guys do understand the deal with the devil as a concept...
>As far as I know, you're studying for free right now. Or do you wanna go the Free™ route and pay up thousands of dollars per year? A loan, mayhaps? *rubrubrub*
Here is exactly the difference isn't it? No, I am not taking a UNI for free. Last few years, I paid for it from my taxes, and this year, I pay for it directly. And that is not all... I do work. I make enough to sustain several people on my part time job already (including the price of the uni), and my job is making people's life easier. I help people, and your advice to me was to just stop helping them and grab their money through the government instead? Disgusting...
