I know the propaganda and self-delusion are strong forces, but I still do wander what is that crazy factor that forces so many fine autistic people to go full troon.

@LukeAlmighty

would self-delusion just mean they hold an opinion you don't believe?

@Emperor1
Oh... A vocabulary bendier enters the arena...

Sorry for the joke, but you can slide definitions of delusion-opinion as much as you want. Is it opinion that we did/did not land on the moon? Is is delusion/opinion that a blind person thinks himself to be healthy?

I am tired of this game. I played it way too many times.

It is a thought that does not correspond to reality. Are you now happy with this re-definition, or do you need me to re-define reality? And why do we use english words in the first place, when latin word for mind has a completely different concepts included in it?

@LukeAlmighty

"It is a thought that does not correspond to reality. Are you now happy with this re-definition, or do you need me to re-define reality?"

yes, because here you have just stated a tautology

@Emperor1
Not by a lot.
As I said, the precieved, understood and physical reality are 3 completelly different concepts. How canwe truly be sure we are understanding correctly the things that we do precieve? And things that we do ....

@LukeAlmighty

so, how can you call another's belief delusion?

@Emperor1
Congratulations, you have just reached the point, where the philosophy ceases to be a useful discipline to analyze abstract concepts by deconstructing words used.

@LukeAlmighty

and you have just abolished your own argument

@Emperor1
No, I pointed to why I don't care about your vocabulary games