@Mikuchi I was thinking about this earlier today. Kids use to be treated as mini-adults. By the time they were 12 or so, families were putting them to work, either on the farm or in factories. Except for the upperclass/wealthy, kids normally were seen just wearing smaller adult clothing. There was a 99% Invisible podcast episode on the advent of children's clothing for everyone, along with the idea that childhoods were special and should be protected. Child psychologists like Dr. Spock and others paved the way for this new era of protected child development. We saw child labour laws emerge around the world in different countries; as well as structured childhood education.

Now, in some places, children as young as 12 can consent to this experimental vaccine, and even get puberty blockers, without the need to inform the parent. Some want to reduce the voting age to 17 (a tactic often used in South American autocratic nations; younger people are easier to manipulate).

We're seeing an emergency of lowering the age of adulthood and decision making. This is by adults who are often acting like children, with childhood style logic.
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So, would you or would you not support lowering the age of adulthood to 15?

This would include the conscent, ability to work and maybe even voting? And why?

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@djsumdog @Mikuchi
I personally think it doesn't even matter, because the schooling system is made in order to baricade people from getting to work before they are about 23 anyway, so unless that number is drastically lowered aswell, the entire debate is pure mental gymnastics.

@LukeAlmighty @Mikuchi I think most of what I learned in University I could have started learning in high school. A lot of people don't know what they want to do when they start University though. I also question a lot of the more liberal ideology I learned, even in the early 2000s in a deep South school with a lot of religious organizations.

As far as maturity though, most people aren't really in a mature place until ~25. Honestly with the way the past two years have been going ... I'm not sure if it matters either, because I don't think most humans are sentient and capable of independent thought.

@djsumdog @Mikuchi
>I think most of what I learned in University I could have started learning in high school.

Exactly my point. I truly despise the fact that 3/4 of highschool subjects were pure trash. And even at uni, nothing realy changed about this.

>As far as maturity though, most people aren't really in a mature place until ~25.

I still remember, when I turned 14, I was desperately trying to find a job. To become useful in this world. Maybe earn some money, maybe even start my life.

It was illegal. Why? Because some fat politician thought that I am better off hungry, crying in corner then actually see that I can be useful by doing even some simple work for a dollar or two per hour.

Not mature until 25? I will have to say, that that is in my opinion pure madness. First, during puberty, we are so hormonal precisely in order to bond and start a life. I honestly believe that waiting until this phase is over is precisely why our society is falling apart, and consider it to be the single worst piece of a modern societal abuse.

>I don't think most humans are sentient and capable of independent thought.

I was thinking about this recently. Although I am an atheist, the one thing I cannot wrap my head around is that it seems, that there truly are people with and without soul.

It scares the shit out of me.

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