@realcaseyrollins @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @chris
Don't worry, I don't mean "just" muslims. There are many cultures that are completelly incompatible with civilized society. Muslims are just the most obvious example.

@LukeAlmighty @search_social @chris It's more effective to stigmatize violence and hatred (which fuels violence) than screen out entire blocks of people (like Muslims) when most of them aren't violent.

@realcaseyrollins @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @chris
>It's more effective to stigmatize violence

No, it's not. Violence was never solved through stigma alone. No ammount of ""stop bullying campaigns ever ammounted to more then wasted paper and ink.

Some people are not prepared to live in a society. You either cut them off, reform or let the entire rest of society burn under their weight. And while some immigrants can be reformed, some groups are better to be cut off completelly.

The belief that you can take an animal and just tell it not to bite is exactly why the america in in such a horrible state right now.

@LukeAlmighty @search_social @chris Well those anti bullying campaigns were done wrong. It's a lot better and more complex than "bullying is bad". You must tackle the hatred also. Bullying is actually oftentimes driven by violence and abuse itself btw. So motivations to bully might as easily be self hatred as it might be hatred of others.

Similarly, Muslim terrorism is often caused by hatred of the West. It's not desirable to merely stop the violence and continue to have people here who hate the country. If you let the hatred fester, it will turn into violence again. And plus many take hatred out in nonviolent ways that are still harmful (the government is a good example, see The Squad).

Also, social pressures should used for this, not legal pressures. They will be more effective IMHO.

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social I love the implication that we should only kick them out if they're "violent". No bitch we just don't want them here because they're not our people. I don't care if they're paragons of virtue good for them but they should still fuck off.

@SouvlakiSmuggler @realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social
IF THERE SO GREAT
WHY AINT THEY HOME HELPING THEIR OWN FOLK
BOTTOM TEXT

@nugger @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @chris @realcaseyrollins
Nice meme, but it does point to one hidden problem of immigration. Even if we did accept only the best of the best, that keeps their nations full of the dumb/agressive people with noone left to improvve their society.

@LukeAlmighty @nugger @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social @chris @realcaseyrollins >that keeps their nations full of the dumb/agressive people with noone left to improvve their society

Not my problem

@lewdthewides @LukeAlmighty @SouvlakiSmuggler @chris @nugger @realcaseyrollins @search_social

Good hell thread. #goodfediposts

@lewdthewides @LukeAlmighty @SouvlakiSmuggler @chris @nugger @realcaseyrollins @search_social But an additional argument for “you have to go back” and not accepting any more of their best.

It’s exactly the same sort of thing that helped decivilize most of the black communities of the US, scarfing up “the top tenth” into government and diversity points jobs, without those there would be no “black middle class” separate from their legendary “Black Wall Street.”

While their children always regress to the mean, which we can see also happen with second and third generation immigrants, especially violent Muslims. If good propaganda aligns with good policy….

@LukeAlmighty @nugger @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social @chris Imagine thinking the #USA genuinely cares about the welfare of other nations lol

@realcaseyrollins @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @chris @nugger
Immagine thinking you can coexist with muslims

@LukeAlmighty @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social @chris @nugger this would literally surprise you but you can

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @nugger @search_social You're right we can coexist. Once they learn to stay in their fucking lane.

@SouvlakiSmuggler @realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @nugger @search_social
And their lane is somewhere in the desert snackbaring and most importantly, far away from our lane.

@LukeAlmighty @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social @chris @realcaseyrollins NO WE GOTTA IMPORT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO ABANDON THEIR COMMUNITY AND CULTURE IN PURSUIT OF MONETARY GAIN AND SOCIAL STATUS WE JUST GOTTA BRING THEM INTO OUR CULTURE AND COMMUNITIES TRUST ME THE DERACINATED UPROOTED CUTTHROAT MIDDLE MANAGEMENT WITH NO EMPATHY FOR OUR NATIVE FOLK IS WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW IT'S OUR VALUES

at least in the colonies in absence of entrenched social ladders and capital giants there was a sense that the people going in were doing it for some vague spiritual reason like raging against their old home or seeking a primordial struggle or trying to build a utopia on virgin land

@LukeAlmighty @nugger @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social @chris @realcaseyrollins
Pretty funny to accuse libshits of any number of -isms for encouraging brain drain from poor disadvantaged third world nations lmao.

@LukeAlmighty @nugger @SouvlakiSmuggler @search_social @chris @realcaseyrollins then why not just make all of them stay?

@nugger @SouvlakiSmuggler @LukeAlmighty @chris @realcaseyrollins @search_social
MAYBE
JUST MAYBE
THEY HELPED CREATE THE PROBLEMS THEY'RE FLEEING FROM
AND
JUST MAYBE
THEY MIGHT CREATE THOSE SAME PROBLEMS HERE

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social Why do countries have to accept everyone? All this immigration used to be curtailed to the most miniscule drip, and then by near fiat they declared "no we're gonna let them in now", the 1965 hart-celler act was not popular with Americans of the time.

@lichelordgodfrey @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social They don't, but maybe the true agenda is closer to what somebody else here mentioned, that immigration either weakens other nations are causes them to stop growing in strength.

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social It's not strengthening us either. It's not meant to strengthen anyone except this nascent neo-feudalist technocratic corporatist/financial order they're building.

@lichelordgodfrey @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social I think it was helpful when it was based on merit.

glances at Nazi scientists nervously

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social If you can't unlearn the propaganda fed to you by the post-1945 order about two countries defeated in the same year, you're not going to make it.

When people spout the truism, "History is written by the victors", they are often not thinking it through to its logical conclusion. I would suggest you consider reading Chesterton's "The Slavery of the Mind": poa.st/notice/A5vZXaC8kkp2QECgTI

They will fabricate the most mundane, and egregious, lies to solidify and entrench their power, time and time again.

As for immigration: no, it isn't "helpful when it was based on merit". That doesn't help the country's native denizens, it helps the state and corporations. It doesn't push the country to uplift itself. It has been a disaster for all countries involved to have it be so loose and almost entirely unrestricted.

@lichelordgodfrey @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social

> It has been a disaster for all countries involved to have it be so loose and almost entirely unrestricted.

This is literally the opposite of what i meant by "based on merit" lol

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social Sir, when you say "we'll just do it by merit" that is how it starts. It is a slippery slope.

@lichelordgodfrey @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social um, sure, but so is banning Muslims.

Anything is a slippery slope if you want it to be. Just do what makes sense man.

@realcaseyrollins @lichelordgodfrey @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social
Banning all immigration makes the most sense

@Boomerman @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social I actually agree

For a few years now I've supported immigration policy of complete amnesty in return for complete border security and potentially stopping immigration for the time being

@realcaseyrollins @Boomerman @LukeAlmighty @chris @search_social That was what the deal was in the 80's, and there was no follow through on the border security. So no amnesty.

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social
>amnesty
Fucking lmao why not just thow open the gates

@Boomerman @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social Becausr that would really hinder national security

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social
Hahaha and amnesty doesnt?

@Boomerman @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social No, not really. It might marginally, but it won't do much either way.

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social
I'd say history disagrees with you

@Boomerman @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social I'm sure you would

@realcaseyrollins @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social
Are you gonna sit there with a straight face and tell me that governments throughout history have never had significant problems with outside groups in their countries. If thats the argument youre making youre a retard

@Boomerman @LukeAlmighty @chris @lichelordgodfrey @search_social no