reportedly 5 teslas have crashed in this same area because the “autopilot” can’t negotiate the curve

it’s hard to overstate what a bad idea a car autopilot is

in an airplane there’s generally nothing around you for thousands of feet so if the autopilot kicks off you have plenty of time to do something about it

in a car you’re very often a fraction of a second from hitting something at high speed, so by the time you register that you need to do something to fix the autopilot’s fuckup it’s too late

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I do see why the self driving cars need a ton of work, but I do not see, why is it a "bad idea", considering, that computers do cut so many human problems out of the equasion.

@LukeAlmighty The problem is what I just said, when the autopilot fails there’s very little time for a human to do anything about it. There is no possibility whatsoever that car autopilots will ever be so robust that they never run into a situation they can’t handle. Even if the logic is perfect, which it won’t be, electronics fail all the time. You’ll be driving around in a 3 ton aluminum turd that can have a stroke at any moment. It’s like giving everybody an 80 year old chauffeur with high blood pressure.

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Every single line you wrote aplies to humans as well. I guess I just believe, that computers can get to the point, when they are *better then humans. Wanting perfection in an inperfect world is a dumb goal. No matter if you want it from computers or humans.

@LukeAlmighty I’ve been driving for almost 20 years and I’ve never hit anything. Never caused an accident. A computer can’t do better than that.

If you want to trade away your own abilities to take your chances with your computer driver, that’s your choice. I don’t, and I’m not interested in being forced to, which is where this is heading. They’re not saying it as much anymore but back in 2015 that was the big sales pitch.

@deprecated @LukeAlmighty I could see it getting phased in for shit drivers. Get in a couple accidents and get an ultimatum from your insurance company - $500 per month or let the computer drive for you.

@InceptionState @LukeAlmighty It’s occurred to me that they would do that. But that’s just another slippery slope, and as we’ve seen, the slippery slope is more of a rule than a fallacy.

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Slippery slope is a law of phisics.
Only a true idiot can believe it's a fallacy.

@LukeAlmighty @deprecated We have a long history of forcing use of safety features in cars through mandatory regulation - seat belts, air bags, interlock for DUI drivers, child car seats, etc. Don't see why we'd expect this to be any different, it's just a question of how long it takes for the tech to become mature.
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