@Humpleupagus @MechaSilvio @icedquinn @inorez @rasterman It always comes down to stuff like this where people are convinced virus deaths are massively inflated while 6 gorillion people got the shot and keeled over but nobody noticed.

@ArdanianRight @MechaSilvio @icedquinn @inorez @rasterman When are people most likely to die from the shot? The first 14 days? What is the most likely symptoms the spike proteins will cause? The same as covid spike proteins? FFS. Are you dumb?

@Humpleupagus @MechaSilvio @icedquinn @inorez @rasterman How many people have actually died within the first 14 days of getting the shot?

@ArdanianRight @MechaSilvio @icedquinn @inorez @rasterman That's not my burden. What I showed is that the CDC is sticking those people in the unvaccinated category, and that alone is suspect. It's your burden to distinguish people who never received the shot from those who did. Your move. Put up or shut up.

@Humpleupagus @MechaSilvio @icedquinn @inorez @rasterman There are non-conspiratorial reasons for potentially doing so, because the vaccine isn't expected to provide protection at that time so it's not a barometer for the vaccine's effectiveness. If the vaccine were causing a wave of deaths we'd have seen it late in the Spring when the vaccine became widely available to the general public, which didn't happen.

@ArdanianRight @Humpleupagus @MechaSilvio @icedquinn @inorez @rasterman the problem with vaccines was there was no long term studies.

excess deaths disappeared for a month or two after they came available, but places that are completely vaxxed like the UK are seeing excess deaths due to young people with heart issues and clotting disorders like stroke.

@eTerrorist @Humpleupagus @MechaSilvio @icedquinn @inorez @rasterman Note that even with Delta unvaccinated people do worse than vaccinated people.