@ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight
The left:
- Commiting the white genocide.
- Stealing away most of my money
- Paying cops to defend terrorists
- Letting terrorist burn down cities
- grooming childern
- Race based discrimination
The right:
- "Cannot we at least talk about the right to defend ourselves?"
Centrist:
How can you do such a wile thing. You are just as bad as they are..
@bypel @ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight
Do disabled DESERVE to be ddestroyed?
No. Obviously, they didn't do anything. But they still should be.
I knew a kid who never ate, never spoke, never walked. For over 10 years, he unwillingly enslaved his parents. It killed his mother.
So, spare me moralizing about this issue. His mother could have had another healthy kid, followed by decades of happy life. And that is something worth dying for.
People don't exist solely for other people's pleasure. We have inherent value.
@bypel @ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight
I know that isn't what his parents thought. He was expected to have at best a chance to live 5 years. His parents managed to double that.
But I also see, that they coudn't give the same ammount of love to their other kid. It drove them do debt, and most importantly... IT KILLED HIS MOTHER.
> People don't exist solely for other people's pleasure.
Obviously. But would you be happy knowing your existence ruined lives of the ones who loved you the most?
You can't judge, that is why Life is sacred.
I met both parents of a 17 year-old girl in vegetative state since birth. They were the HAPPIEST people I ever met.
You can't judge, Life is sacred.
@mystik @bypel @ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight
Life is sacred. But not heartbeats.
I know what I saw. It wasn't hapiness. It was the definition of hell. And it's exavtly the feel good lines like "Life is sacred." that make it impossible for some people to live. It is also the same line of thinking, that caused the lockdowns, and ruined thousands of lives during it.
I had an interesting talk with my step mom recently. I asked her what was the most important question while voting.
It was euthanasia.
Because she knows her time is aproaching, and she might end up in the bed of ethernal pain.
But we must safe her sacred heartbeat right?
>"Life is sacred. But not heartbeats."
Oxymoron. Your lack of logic is leftist.
>"I know what I saw."
And I know what I saw. They were so happy they even turned her room into a little temple. They adored her, as crazy as it sounds, she managed to make them happy.
People make choices, you don't know when someone will be happy with their mission or terribly miserable. It's how they take life challenges. You can't judge what people will do. Either way it's never the sleeping guy's fault.
>"It was euthanasia."
Leftists thinking in suicide? Color me surprised.
I will fulfill my mission, and I will never engage in making potentially stupid decisions irreversible, I won't taint my hands with stupid people's blood.
Take cancer for an instance, people say it's irreversible and that it doesn't have a cure. But I know there is a cure, I can cure it. People take their lives over it. When they could be treated instead. If I assist in the killing of someone stupid who wants to die over a stupid belief like that, I AM TO BLAME, either I know about the cure or not (someone else could know). Life is sacred.
@mystik @bypel @ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight
I end the thread here. I see you're unwilling debate in good faith.
If you see no difference between life and heartbeat, and are willing to call me a leftie, there is no rational conversation to be made.
Have a nice day. 
Oh, I see... Life is a social construct kind of logic.
@exosome @bypel @ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight
Governments have been murdering without cause since the begining of recorded time. My step mom just want a right to not live in constant pain for years.
I get your point, but I also think, this isn't the correct target.
I am autistic. Many would like to abort their kids when they found it will think slightly different then them. I get this is a complex topic. There are even entire "charity" organizations trying to get people like me extinct. #autismspeaks . So please, don't think I am not conflicted on the topic.
But thanks for your response. This entire topic is a clusterfuck of dificult decisions and tradeofs.
@bypel @ChristiJunior @ArdanianRight
I'm not saying "Sparta had it figgured out." All I am saying is, that a kid, that in his entire life does not make a person smile, Dies not enjoy a good meal, or does not help his friends a single time in his life might actually be a detriment to the society.
And worse, actively hurting people around him by mere existence.