I am starting to get realy nervous about the steam deck. Although, in every single marketing material, they say it's a "linux PC", I have not seen a single frame of the OS. I have not seen the terminal, and I have not heard a single line confirming, there will be an easy access to non-steam applications. (unless the OS is changed. That option had been confirmed.)

@lewdthewides
That is actually the option I am afraid of.
I don't need yet another dumb console. If the Deck is going to be just another dumb console, then why even bother?

@LukeAlmighty don't see why that would be a deal-breaker. You're buying it for the hardware
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@lewdthewides
No, I already have a Switch.
The avaiable software makes all the difference.
Switch can be an amazing peace of hardware, but software is so retarded, I cannot even play online.

Same goes for switch. Amazing hardware, but can I watch movies and browse the net?

@LukeAlmighty @lewdthewides
>Same goes for switch. Amazing hardware, but can I watch movies and browse the net?
It's a video game console, it shouldn't matter.

@inorez @LukeAlmighty @lewdthewides
Watching my friend's kids get set up to play multiplayer in some Lego game on their PS4 and they had to sign in the controller on a separate account then choose the same game to launch the account into. Then the game crashed on a loading screen. Fucking astonishing.

@HitterNeverQuitter @LukeAlmighty @lewdthewides Meanwhile when I was a kid our big issue was finding enough controllers to begin with. Games always worked unless you fucked up the AV connections or you had to turn your friend's Playstation 1 upside down because reasons.

@inorez @LukeAlmighty @lewdthewides
They couldn't understand why I was amazed by a console game crashing and the login system. I always thought consoles were getting easier to use, but they've become more bloated and complicated since the PS3.

@HitterNeverQuitter @LukeAlmighty @lewdthewides That was the main appeal of consoles for the longest time. No installs, no weird shit, no having to multitask and have resource overhead bloat mucking up the game experience. You stick a game in, gameplay comes out.

But now they're essentially small computers, either in format or in actual hardware, and it's shit. I never wanted my PS2 to have a web browser and neither did I want my Xbox 360 to have facebook functionality and I never wanted my 3DS to have Netflix or Youtube support.

It's all shit. Why can't game consoles just play video games anymore?
@inorez @LukeAlmighty @lewdthewides @HitterNeverQuitter I remember finding out that the PS3 needed to install games from discs and started wondering why I even bought it.

@inorez @lewdthewides @HitterNeverQuitter
I would get the argument, but consoles still lack most of the usages, so between full console, modern mix and full PC, I choose full PC every time. Full console is good too, but that wasn't an option with deck.

@LukeAlmighty then go buy a gpd win if you want to do multimedia. Steam deck is a machine optimized for gayming

@lewdthewides
I was ready to do it, when they anounced the Steam deck.

And yes, it still is the best option out there, so if Deck fails, I will give it a try.

@lewdthewides @LukeAlmighty i do agree it would be a concern if it were running windows. while my main interest is in what the product offers as valve is advertising it, i am also interested in it as a whip on the ass of developers to get their stuff running on linux.
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