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Men should need motivation to be responsible for themselves It’s women’s responsibility to make them be adults it’s other people’s place to keep you from gluttony and sloth
Butter filled sausages typed this post.
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“If they cannot motivate their men to stay fit they deserve to be fucked by fat men.”
You described a circumstance wherein a woman’s partner decided to go back to being an infant must inherently be her fault.
This is just nigger tier fat-logic that seeks to blame women for their husbands betraying them over not having to do basic hygiene.
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It's difficult for women to understand this, but a woman who is unable to motivate a man is like a six-figure-salary earner who is always broke every month.
If you are a woman and you find yourself looking up at something like that, you have made comically terrible mistakes in your life.
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@Senpai-kun @Denton fatlogic again.
If you’re fat it’s because you’re a bad person. Good people can become bad people. and healthy people can give up and become fat and immoral for selfish reasons. Plenty of entirely good men go to complete shit because they decide to be greedy and lazy, prioritizing comfort and binging over their family. It’s not a woman’s fault you’re a bad person, nor is it her duty to have to baby her protector and provider like an infant, helping them relearn that a 3 pound serving of pasta is excessive.
it’s your fault, tallowgather. It’s always your fault you’re fat & lazy unless you are so profoundly retarded as to be unable to exercise choices and self awareness. Motivate yourself, you only have 1 mother and if you married her you should commit 64 block drop in Minecraft.
Pic related, it’s your mental gymnastics.
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@Senpai-kun @Denton I have been witness to several men choosing to destroy themselves over the course of quarantine. Some of which took to pressuring, guilting, and haranguing their spouses and partners into fucking them. I had a woman stay with me until she could find a rental in ‘21 because the boyfriend she’d moved to Melbourne with hit 50kg overweight during work from home and just took to pushing her down and raping her when he wanted a piece.
People change as they age, many people chose to commit to rot rather than growth. Accruing girth is merely one expression of this.
The ire comes from very low expectations of other people, which are consistently proven to be yet too high for an increasing number of people.
Your actions are your own. When you choose evil, you are evil. Obesity is a blatant expression of choosing gluttony and sloth over yourself and family and when you’re married or in a committed relationship it’s at its’ core a betrayal of your spouse so you can eat an extra 3 butter and custard sandwiches every day.
Which the taxes I’m forced to pay just to own my land or spend my own money inevitably are put toward sustaining, so it’s a social betrayal that involves me in the degenerate behaviour you’re subjecting a woman whose supposed to be relying on you.
Everything I’ve said about men holds true to women as well. Fat women raise fat children. They’ve got a duty to them, and their spouse, to not turn into a grotesque, bearded dependapotamus.
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I figured it was something personal. What you need to understand though is that most of the time, men don't just suddenly turn bad with no warning signs and no ways to correct course early on. It's just that the danger of this happening, no matter how unlikely, is so extreme in consequence for women that they tend to have a hypochondriac's level of anxiety about it. Whatever exceptional circumstance you might be privy to, I can guarantee that ninety nine times out of a hundred, if a woman finds herself fucking a loser, a fatty, a criminal, or a wifebeater, she absolutely had options on the table to not go down that path.
Further, women have a tendency to evade accountability more than men generally do, which makes it impossible to be sure whether they're giving you a straight story about their victimhood. I can't verify your friend's story any more than you could verify any of my anecdotes about women who cried to me about their circumstances only for me to learn that they jumped into self destructive situations on their own, despite obvious red flags, even going so far as to disassociate with friends who warned her that she was making a mistake. But I've learned that scratching the surface of a sob story is usually all it takes to find a thread that unravels the whole thing. If I were to spend my life taking women at their word about their life tragedies, I would think that women walk around petting cute woodland animals and singing old Disney songs when suddenly out of nowhere a bunch of meteors fell out of the sky specifically to ruin their lives. Suffice to say it just doesn't work out like that.
Think about your anger over your taxes being used to finance other peoples' terrible lifestyles, and then multiply that by every time a woman fucks a shitty man and has to be rescued from the fallout of that. We all pay for that in ways that are both material and immaterial - do you think any man who behaves badly would listen to me chastise him about his ethics while he's getting laid? I can be mad about that guy being a shithead all I want, but it's the enabler who's doing more damage than anyone else ever could, by not starving out bad behavior. What am I supposed to do about that, exactly? Insert myself into other peoples' households and shake my fist with suspicion until I'm personally satisfied that nobody's getting secretly raped? How could anyone possibly organize a whole society around a principle like that? Just from a logistical standpoint alone it's impossible to meet the security needs of women if women don't commit themselves to a basic level of due diligence to not put themselves in constant danger or need, through excessive risk taking or other dysfunctional lifestyles.
It's extremely traditionalist to put all of the accountability for relationships and households on men, and that's a nice romantic ideal I guess, but you can't really have things both ways. Full accountability for men requires no agency for women, and it disregards women's social advantages over men as blatantly as if we were to suggest that men don't have 40% more upper body strength and therefore shouldn't be expected to move heavy stuff around. It's just not living in reality. When you have a special talent or ability that other people don't have, it's a slap to their face to pretend you don't have it.
To put it bluntly, there's a world full of foremen out there who would love to have the kind of ability to infuse energetic motivation in their crew as the average woman with no other qualifications can.
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@Senpai-kun @Denton You are responsible for your own actions.
If you cannot maintain a healthy weight, man or woman, it’s your fault.
Anything else is a cope.
Could a woman potentially do it? Maybe, yeah.
Or maybe you could chose your woman’s happiness and safety over a 25th can of baked beans.
What’re you supposed to do about it? Yeah, there are options. You can apply all kinds of pressure, revoke all sorts of considerations, etc.
How about you just don’t decide to commit a betrayal, tho? Is that really SO difficult that we need to blame women for not being able to cure your sick head? Is your ickle feefee hurt so badly that we should just, absolve you of the greater share of agency and blame the nearest woman, regardless of the situation?
Obese “adults” should be dragged from their beds in the middle of the night, put in stocks and spanked until their hemorrhoids rupture for infidelity, sloth, greed and refusing to express personal accountability.
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We live in countries where abortion is legal, largely because women locked arms and demanded it. If the average man has anything even remotely negative to say about that, you know exactly what happens to his entire social circle, let alone his dating prospects. You have to understand how much power that represents.
Women reject men for this and other reasons, including having voted for Trump in 2016 in numbers that are likely unprecedented insofar as political motivations for breakups are concerned. Against this sort of backdrop, you are demanding, very angrily, that men should feel obligated to rescue women from the bad choices in men that they have been making in the meanwhile, after the consequences blow up in their faces.
I have been told that women are especially good at empathy. Whether you think it's right or wrong, surely you can understand how the whole political context of the 20th century could be numbing men's sensitivity to women's needs.
@Senpai-kun @Denton @SpaceElf
My nightmares just stopped.
Thanks for reminding me of this.
We will put an end to the tyranny of the Neapolitan.