@Humpleupagus trolley*
And, in a lot ways, yes it is. They’re called “decision points,” where you must make a decision from a limited number of real options, you can’t put it off any longer, and your choice counts. In the most interesting decision points, all options have pros and cons. You think that you can escape the seriousness of decision points by shouting nonsense like “option 3) YOU ARE A NIGGER” but you can’t.
You are both missing the point here. The Trolley Problem is a dilemma where you’re asking someone to take some murderous action that has a utilitarian benefit. Five people dying is objectively worse than one person dying, but to get that one-person result, you have to condemn someone to death.
You can change the scenario in the trolley problem slightly, so instead of pulling a lever, you are pushing someone off an overpass onto the tracks, to try to get a more precise picture of their morals. And you can keep making small changes like this, as luke was alluding to.
But that’s a dumb fucking copout, because neet wasn’t asking out of some genuine intellectual curiosity to try to better understand my position, he was trying to get concessions so I would soften my position on his mass murder takes.
Neet, you are retarded for sticking to this “mass murder is good because equity programs, actually” line of reasoning, and Luke you are retarded for trying to steelman his position as just trying to get a better understanding of my position, when it should be clear that he wasn’t.
My position is that if State, medical, university, etc, officials create and/or exacerbate racial tensions by creating explicit racial policies they have no leg to stand on when it turns out that the natural consequences of racial tensions they caused – like racial violence, for example – emerge.
You also can’t complain about someone disregarding State law (murder) to implement Constitutional law (Equal Protection Under the law) when the Courts/Feds don’t feel like doing it. One of these laws is higher (Constitutional) and so implementation of it is therefore more important.
Neither of these positions are terribly unreasonable, unless you think the ruling class are in no way responsible for outcomes and that lesser law (my house rules) override higher law (State statutes).
