Please, share and debate
(I tried writing the poll neutral, even though I think half of the list is delusional)

Do you believe there is a possibility of left and right to calm down and start a reasonabke debate, considering, that:

The left:
Castrates kids, approves of grooming, protests for killing babies etc

The right:
Tried an insurrection, want to kill trans people, hate minorities, want rich to be richer etc

@LukeAlmighty modern Americans are too stupid to make up but too pussy to make war, it will probably be a couple of decades of the shit you have now until anything changes. By the way, calling fetuses with no developed nervous systems “babies” is about as retarded as calling acorns “oak trees” lol

@Amikke
Although I do agree with your first half, the second is just plane whataboutism.
And it changes nothing about the fact, that it is exactly what does a right wing person see. A baby, that was murdered, because his mother couldn't be arsed to use rubber.

If you can look up pictures of aborted babies without your stomac turning inside out, you might be a psychopath. And people who see these pictures will build up rage with every single mention of a woman bragging about her right to murder even more.

(btw, I don't have a strong opinion on abortions in particular, but is is the clearest example of behavior, that left is willing to ignore just how demonic they sound when they talk about it.)

@LukeAlmighty yeah, that’s what a right-wing person sees because they refuse to consider the matter further than “monkey brain see little monkey, monkey brain mad little monkey dead”. It’s perfectly understandable, it’s our basic instinct after all, but with our understanding of nervous system and fetus development it’s not a reasonable stance for enforcing the “protection” of such not-yet-developed fetuses and sacrificing the wellbeing of perfectly good adult humans in the process. It’s not really a matter of discussion, it’s a matter of education and fucking off other people’s reproductive decisions.

@Jens_Rasmussen @Amikke
The best argument for abortion rights is:
Would you seriously want the kid to live with such a person?

But this argument is rarely being used for some reason.

@Jens_Rasmussen @Amikke
I said for abortion....