@ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @TheMadPirate @rlier23 @lina @LukeAlmighty @maxmustermann @fluffy @Leyonhjelm @newt @waifu troonies divide the world into two groups, you're either with them or against them. and the criteria for being 'with them' seems to change every week
@raptor

I actively want to be against them. I constantly fear that some weeks they might set criteria that somehow twist things to where people like me who hope they hang themselves are "with them"

@ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @TheMadPirate @rlier23 @lina @LukeAlmighty @maxmustermann @fluffy @newt @waifu
@Leyonhjelm @ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @TheMadPirate @rlier23 @lina @LukeAlmighty @maxmustermann @fluffy @newt @waifu I follow some honest to god troons and it bothers me that none of them are able to take the high horse and not make it all about feelings. The typical response to Tucker talking about the fake breasts shop teacher is "conservative media took this specific story from a right wing blog that focuses only on transgenders that commit sexual crimes. because conservative media likes to focus on the bad, it can never ever be trusted to report anything about our kind".

How about instead just say something like "the right wing blog that reported the shop tits story teacher only reports about transgenders when they commit sexual crimes. it is important to perform these kinds of services, even if they make us transgenders look very bad to everyone else. i support all journalism that helps people catch sexual predators. normie right wing media loves to capitalize on fears that average people have because of their demographics, and with the limited amount of facts that we have, it may be possible that this shop teacher simply went too far in this case. I believe that gender affirmation can really help people and it is unfair that people see us in a negative light but if we continue policing each other and not giving everyone a good reason to ridicule us then we can progress with becoming what we truly believe we could be."

It's like these people are completely unaware of the entire civil rights movement. Troonies look at BLM demands and go 'wow yeah man we're just like black people in the 1960s we need all that, like now, immediately' ignoring that their 'struggle' with reality started 5 years ago. They're demanding too much, too fast, too unreasonably with zero charismatic leaders or strategies. They think they are justified in everything they do because they have corporate backing but they're too young to understand that everything is just a wind blowing, and at some point winds change.

Go look at the locked 2020 reddit megathread deciding which anti-vax subreddits should be banned on the site. That didn't age well at all, with half of the subreddits on that list being the only ones that people still post to at all. The harshest difference between reality and fiction (something these trannies were brought up on) is that in reality there is no closure. Nobody is going to come up to you on the street and go 'hey remember that one thing? it actually turned out like this! wow what a twist huh? betcha didnt see that one coming. have a good one!'

In order to be a functional person in our world you have to treat everyone as a lying fucktard scumbag rapist that wants you killed and all your money stolen. The burden is on them to prove to you that is not the case. Remember when Pewdiepie, a teenage demographic youtube darling shilled an app called Nimses to his followers? Yeah well it was just a way for a bunch of Ukranians to sell your data and string investors along until the money ran out and they just closed up shop in 2019, 4 whole years ago, without telling anyone anything was happening.
@raptor

Trannies are the reason I gave up the title of "libertarian". They made it clear to me that they cannot be trusted to live freely in society, as did BLM, open borders, the "justice reform" anti-police crowd, and everyone who supports allowing Islam to exist in the west.

Trannies are a bunch of demon-possessed lunatics and will use any shred of conciliatory goodwill you have against you even if you're on their own bloody side. The reason they won't come out and say they're against paedophiles is because they support child abuse and mutilation, and many turn out to be active paedophiles. Especially the most vocal of them. I have yet to encounter one who decries abusing children in the name of gender ideology and means it. Every time you turn around, another one who claims to be one of the "good ones" who opposes it gets arrested for child sex crimes.

Ironic that you use the BLM example. BLM turned me against the Civil Rights Act and trannies verified that my position was right by trying to piggyback on it

@ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior @TheMadPirate @rlier23 @lina @LukeAlmighty @maxmustermann @fluffy @newt @waifu
1) you unironically identified as a libertarian at one point
2) you cite trans people as the reason for giving up that label, and not the rampant p3dophilia
3) you say BLM is the reason you have given up on civil rights :cat_laugh:

@Leyonhjelm @TheMadPirate @ChristiJunior @maxmustermann @ArdainianRight @raptor @lina @fluffy @nenetl @rlier23 @waifu @newt
I am a libertarian, but I have to say, that the trannie question is a seriously strong argument...

Especially seeing, that normies aren't even willing to protect their own kids.

@LukeAlmighty

I would gladly just leave people the hell alone if they could help themselves from demanding affirmation at the expense of free speech and demanding that we allow them to indoctrinate children with an ideology that will cause them to make decisions - which they'll demand that we affirm and surgically implement - that will cause a lifetime of regret and grief for themselves and their families.

If that's what humans are, we cannot handle liberty.

If libertarians stop treating threats to our society as enemies instead of embracing an idiotic moral conceit that they can be safely left alone to do what they do without affecting us, I might be able to come back to it, but I don't think that's how it works. It wasn't that many years ago that libertarians considered defending yourselves and your children with appropriate - sometimes deadly - force a basic natural right. I haven't seen a hell of a lot of support for that from libertarians in practice, even when some still give it lipservice.

@TheMadPirate @ChristiJunior @maxmustermann @ArdainianRight @raptor @lina @fluffy @nenetl @rlier23 @waifu @newt

@Leyonhjelm

So you support your partial (but extensive) enslavement by a violent, oppressive ruling class?

As for the "haven't seen...in practice"; Again, compare to historical slavery. Most slaves didn't resist, even though many "still gave [abolitionism] lip service" in private.

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