Zanzibart, forgive me...
You know, it's rather surprising how a game from 17 years ago looks pretty dope! No remaster, no HD textures, no other upgrades.
I wish all older games from that era aged just as well. Because I can't look at Neverwinter Nights without having my eyes bleed.
I wish all older games from that era aged just as well. Because I can't look at Neverwinter Nights without having my eyes bleed.
@LukeAlmighty one of my favourite old RPGs is The Temple of Elemental Evil. The game itself is borked beyond being playable and I can't recommend it, unless you love to suffer. But it's just so beautiful! Especially compared to other games from its time (2003).
God I wish most RPG makers took their time and didn't switch to full 3d for at least a few more years.
God I wish most RPG makers took their time and didn't switch to full 3d for at least a few more years.
@newt @LukeAlmighty Neverwinter Nights is great though, it would still be worth playing today just for all the freedom and different choices it gives the player, it's an experience most zoomers never had in their lives with modern games.
@deadheat @LukeAlmighty huh? Can’t remember any freedom in it, and I played it through and through, including both expansions. It’s still a pretty good game though.
@deadheat @LukeAlmighty as for the modern games, come on! Both Pathfinder games and both PoE are at least as good as NWN, probably even better in many regards, including the story. I for one am very glad that we’re seeing a small renaissance of classic RPGs with at least one good game released every year or so.
@deadheat @LukeAlmighty haha they are basically classic RPGs but running on Unity engine. If you loved NWN, you’re gonna enjoy them.
@newt @LukeAlmighty >If you loved NWN, you’re gonna enjoy them
Sounds fun, but I doubt they could do the sort of stuff they did back then... In NWN, if you chose to be evil, you could actually be evil, it was so over the top. Remember at the end of the second expansion when you could bind the final boss demon and your female companion to obey you, and even force her to kiss you against her will to humiliate her? They could never do stuff like that in our modern era ahah
Sounds fun, but I doubt they could do the sort of stuff they did back then... In NWN, if you chose to be evil, you could actually be evil, it was so over the top. Remember at the end of the second expansion when you could bind the final boss demon and your female companion to obey you, and even force her to kiss you against her will to humiliate her? They could never do stuff like that in our modern era ahah
@deadheat @LukeAlmighty check out Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Seriously, it does exactly that and more. It’s pretty much the first game I played that allows a believable playthrough with a chaotic character. And the story actually depends on your alignment, it’s not just cosmetics there.
@deadheat @LukeAlmighty probably my favourite piece of dialogue from that game (or maybe any game) happens after you invade the troll lair and defeat the king.
Troll king: “why did you humans come here and start killing us? What have we done to you?”
My character (chaotic neutral): “I don’t know, it just happened this way”
The game is full of neat things like this. There are entire quests available for specific alignments, some companions will or will not like you and try to leave. Or maybe they’ll kill another one of your companions (there’s an evil elf in my party who murdered my cleric because he was a pussy). Not to mention the shenanigans like that goblin quest from NWN that you mentioned.
P.S. you can even have a goblin in your party. Can’t romance him though, unlike some other characters.
Troll king: “why did you humans come here and start killing us? What have we done to you?”
My character (chaotic neutral): “I don’t know, it just happened this way”
The game is full of neat things like this. There are entire quests available for specific alignments, some companions will or will not like you and try to leave. Or maybe they’ll kill another one of your companions (there’s an evil elf in my party who murdered my cleric because he was a pussy). Not to mention the shenanigans like that goblin quest from NWN that you mentioned.
P.S. you can even have a goblin in your party. Can’t romance him though, unlike some other characters.
@newt @LukeAlmighty Yeah I will check it out someday. I actually have the most fun playing straight a good heroic character, but the stuff that happens in NVN if you are evil is so over the top and absurd that makes you pause the game to laugh.
>Invade the prison of the mind flayers where they are keeping their human slaves
>Kill the wardens
>freed slaves: Oh, you came to save us!?
>You: No, you are all my slaves now!
>Invade the prison of the mind flayers where they are keeping their human slaves
>Kill the wardens
>freed slaves: Oh, you came to save us!?
>You: No, you are all my slaves now!
@newt @LukeAlmighty The best quest of all time was the goblin kidnapper that invades the house of the widow and takes her baby hostage. You can do anything between the right thing or kill the goblin and kidnap the baby for ransom yourself, you can leave her house with the baby in your inventory hahahah
@newt @LukeAlmighty In most quests and situations you can be either good, neutral, greedy or evil, with your decisions changing your alignment and how the story plays out, you can kill pretty much all non-essential npcs, you can play the game as any of the D&D classes, etc
Neverwinter Nights is one of those early 2000s games, when RPGs began the transition into full 3d. Earlier games featured pre-rendered or sometimes even hand-drawn backgrounds and characters, which allowed for much higher details. There's only so much power you can squeeze from a Pentium 3 with 128 megs of ram.
Here's two screenshots. One from Icewind Dale II, the other one is from Neverwinter Nights Enhanced Edition. The latter was only updated to work on the modern hardware, no HD textures or models were added as far as I know. Both games were initially released in 2002.
Icewind Dale II still looks so much better due to all the details. Such a shame there won't be an enhanced version of it. As far as I know, the original devs lost the source code. But you can still buy the old version on GOG.