@dave
While saying, that women do show empathy based on studies, I think the true reason why it's controversial is actually a definition one.

If you take empathy as the ability to read faces, why not... I can see the empathy being there. But once you include a will to limit suffering of others, sorry, I just don't see it.

@dave
Ok, here is my counter-argument.
Because no matter how many times I say "woman completelly lack empathy for men", I know it won't go through without it being said by a woman.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=TleazaQD

@LukeAlmighty Does this video make the argument based on aggregate data, or does it just highlight examples of individual women who lack empathy?

@dave
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics"
You are asking for a standart, that I don't care about nor respect. Sociology is the most cucked """"scientific"""" field out there, and we live in a society, that ignores men suffering.

So, if you get 20 idiots in a room, and ask them to form an empathy metric, they will come up with one, that multiplies suffering and """empathy""" of women. And even worse, if they are objective, and correct result comes in, they scrap it and start over.

In AI research, they aren't even hiding it. They call it a "algoritmic justice", where if the AI discriminates in a way they don't like, they assume the AI is wrong and has to be re-trained on a cherrypicked data.

@LukeAlmighty If I presented you a video that included examples of guys that seem to be even more lacking in empathy than these women, would you accept that men have less empathy than women?

@dave
A video not connected to life experience means nothing.

I just hoped it might connect some dots for you too. Or at least, that it might help you understand why sociology is a fucking joke.

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@dave
Plus I like talking to you.
Hoping, that I will have prepared spreadsheets with data, is a hilarious standart. Especially, when you know I have disdain for academia.

@LukeAlmighty I don’t hope you “have prepared spreadsheets with data”, I hope you formulated your argument with awareness of my perspective in mind. I also “hope” that you have at least a modicum of respect for my time.

That you are linking a 15-minute video where it isn’t clear how this refutes the assertion suggests to me that you don’t. And maybe I’m misjudging, but that’s the vibe I get when you respond to a video that is making arguments from studies and data, with a much longer one that apparently doesn’t.

@dave
You haven't posted a clip with studies, you have posted a clip saying "studies say". That is a "i fucking love science" level of understanding academia right there.

And don't you dare talk about respecting time. Academic papers are on purpose written to be both pointlessly long and missing the most important data. Unless the Paper using questionnaires contains the exact copy of the questionnaires (they don't), I have to take their results at their word, making the entire study a "dude trust me" written in a time wasting manner.

But let's say I read all of the mentioned studies, and tell you why I cannot respect a single one of them. Would that make you happy? GREAT... But I won't waste weeks of my life trying to make you happy. You aren't a toddler.

@LukeAlmighty @dave

>And don't you dare talk about respecting time. Academic papers are on purpose written to be both pointlessly long and missing the most important data. Unless the Paper using questionnaires contains the exact copy of the questionnaires (they don't), I have to take their results at their word, making the entire study a "dude trust me" written in a time wasting manner.
That's exactly why he asks you for studies: to exhaust you and waste your time until you just passively agree.
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