@icedquinn @Terry
To be fair, have you seen what the socialists countries look like now?
It is romantic in comparison.
@icedquinn @Terry @hermit
That is, because the "refutarion" is surface level at best.
Refuting objectivism with "someone has to clean the toalets" is like refuting turfs with "but he's a woman"...
Not only does it not land, but if you understood the basic premise, you wouldn't even bother saying that shit.