@moffintosh
Remember @dave , when I said, that I can safely assume this about people on the left?

@LukeAlmighty @dave It's not like fashies and cops don't use violence out of principle

@moffintosh @dave
Fashies
That word is doing a shit ton of heavy lifting for you, so I will have to ask you for a bit of a clarification. (and how well do I fit :alex: )

@moffintosh @dave
So, you mean feds?
I asked about either philosophy or a behavior. And I care about the breaking point, not the furthest extreme.

Who is the tamest person who deserves to be killed?

@LukeAlmighty @dave

So, you mean feds?

Fascists and the capitalist state have been pretty intertwined since Mussolini decided to join in on union busting.
Even during the Nuremberg trials the USA was busy rescuing nazi party members from punishment. See operation paperclip

Who is the tamest person who deserves to be killed?

The box was about violence, not killing. And the answer to that is: knowing propagandists and agitators ought to get the jail.

@moffintosh @dave
@LukeAlmighty @dave
> Who is the tamest person who deserves to be killed?

> The box was about violence, not killing. And the answer to that is: knowing propagandists and agitators ought to get the jail.

Violence leads to deaths. Don't play stupid. If you attack me, I have no idea where the line where you're willing to stop is, and I will defend myself accordingly.

But I didn't get the 2nd part.
> knowing propagandists and agitators ought to get the jail.

So, if you know it you deserve death? If you don't know it, you deserve death? You have used a really weird shortcut there.

@LukeAlmighty @dave

Violence leads to deaths. Don't play stupid. If you attack me, I have no idea where the line where you're willing to stop is, and I will defend myself accordingly.

The basic line is described in the law. Even then, if the purpose is to jail and one does not resist, they end up in jail, if the purpose is to kill and one does not resist, one gets killed. It depends what the objective is and how much the other party escalates.

So, if you know it you deserve death? If you don't know it, you deserve death? You have used a really weird shortcut there.

Because english sucks. What I was trying to say is: "Those who willing spread fascist propaganda and/or agitate for reactionary action, while fully knowing that they're spreading fascist propaganda and/or agitating for fascist action, ought to be jailed"

@moffintosh @dave
Well, that pretty much confirms, that you want to "steal the rest of my life" through help of police, either by making me die, or sit in a box.

Yeah, that is all I needed to know.

@moffintosh @dave
Fashist propaganda is this
1) I can be misidentified
2) being misidentified means you will feel free to enact violence against me.
Therefore, it is self-defense to support anyone, including fascists, who is willing to stop you.

Simple as :peepoShrug:

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@moffintosh @dave
Wow, you are such a moral cuck.
"it is moral, as long as the ruling class agrees"

What a great way to live your life.

@LukeAlmighty @dave Never said that it was moral. I exactly said that the problem you described is what the arbitration system is for.

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