Anytime someone starts talking about lowering the age of consent, no matter how outwardly fair or reasonable their opinions seem, it's always for nefarious reasons. If they say they just want to marry 16-year-olds, they're lying, it's not the end goal it's a goalpost they'll move the instant they achieve it.

There is an argument to be made that winning the war on teenage pregnancy (in tandem with extending adolescence well into our 20s) led in part to our current population collapse, but it's one I won't even touch since everyone who does always does so because they secretly want to fuck 12-year-olds.

@Shadowman311 I once worked with a guy who had a freakish level of knowledge about the dynamics of adolescent marriage - I don't remember much other than the unease, but it seemed like it's all taken care of with parental permission. Repair the family unit and it's not a problem at all: Good parents wouldn't allow an unhealthy marriage, and they're the best judges in looking out for their kids, case closed.

It's such a pointless argument to have, of course it's used as a wedge issue because it welds together a little bit of every weird subculture's hot dispute topics: Marriage, pedophilia, feminist nagging, sexual morality, 30-yo "adolescents", revenge against bitter roasties, etc

@WashedOutGundamPilot @Shadowman311
Yeah, I completely agree. This topic is so toxic, that there is no civilized way of debating it. Sadly, it crosses way too many broken issues, and everyone sees only one side. -_-

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Btw,it doesn't even matter, that I went several times into details, about the fact, that I don't see age of consent as a core of a fertility crisis, but instead it's the education system.

Both people have their lives lined up hour by hour for 2 decades. No wonder they cannot form a family under such insane conditions. But, if that wasn't enough, then the lost cost fallacy kicks in, and women STILL don't care about family until they spend at least 10 years at work......

But as soon as I mention, that the puberty begins around 15, that is all that most people hear for some reason. Even though I am explicitly complaining about most serious dating beginning at the age of twenty five FFS!!!

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